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[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I'm saving all my gripes with kamala after the election.. Trump and the Christofascists with the daggers in his back are extremely dangerous.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

The gripe is genocide. Supposedly the most unacceptable thing.

If not now, when?

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

You have 2 choices. Both are awful, one, however, is slightly less awful. Politicians are allowed to lie and not deliver on platform promises. Pressing kamala for words right now is meaningless. Protests after she is elected will be a lot easier and effective than a Trump administration.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Protests after she is elected will be a lot easier and effective than a Trump administration.

wrong, when Good Team is in the white house, libs tend to turn off and not show up to protests/organize/etc because Good Team already won. when Bad Team gets in they at least pretend to care. a recent example you can look at is 2020, when trump was in office people were protesting police brutality, state repression etc. after 2020, not a peep, and more commonly active derision for protests.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Wait.. you want Trump to win? Is this an acceleration stance? I don't see how a far left movement can succeed in the turmoil.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

No, nowhere in my post did I say I want trump to win. i said it's easier to organize when libs pretend to care about issues, instead of being actively detrimental to organizing efforts.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Actually you and I have a third choice called not voting for either. You are under no obligation to vote for or support a genocide. You can, in fact, spend your efforts opposing it rather than carrying water for its perpetrators.

And I am not sure who told you that you have more leverage after elections rather than before, but they have no idea how leverage works or what building power looks like. But really, this is obviously not about strategy or organizing, but about how to justify yet again announcing support for the status quo - genocide edition.

Please actually oppose genocide instead of making excuses for it.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Okay man, vote for a third party. Good luck with all that.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

You should be against genocide and act accordingly.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

You should go to Israel and assassinate Netanyahu. Thanks

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Assassinating Netanyahu wouldn’t change anything.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I do not have that power and that would also not be effective. Opposition requires organizing and supporting resistance.

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