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President Biden’s reelection campaign raised more than $1 million through online fundraising alone in the 24 hours after the president’s Jan. 6 anniversary speech, according to numbers exclusively provided to The Hill.

Biden on Friday gave a full throated attack against former President Trump, his likely GOP opponent, and warned Americans that Trump’s reelection would pose a threat to American democracy. The president zeroed in on Jan. 6 to mark the third anniversary of the U.S. Capitol riots and argued in his remarks that democracy is on the ballot in 2024.

In response to the 24-hour fundraising haul, the Biden campaign noted that they see preserving democracy as a political winner for the president in 2024.

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[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 12 points 10 months ago

You are 100% allowed to join the DNC, run a campaign against Biden, and spend tons of time and money trying to convince the DNC to give you all their money instead of Biden for a presidential campaign. It won't work, but you can try.

Here's an article about 5 incumbent presidents that got primaried. Spoiler: they all won their primaries

https://time.com/5682760/incumbent-presidents-primary-challenges/

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Only if the DNC allowed a primary, which they're not this year....

And the DNC would be allowed to influence the primary against me in anyway they want...

They could even wait till I win, then say "nah, don't think we will" and nominate Biden to the general.

This isn't my opinion, this is what the dnc told a judge, and the judge agreed.

Even further tho, the judge said the DNC can continue to claim primaries will be fair even if they're not, because it's just a "political promise" and politicians apparently are 100% allowed to lie about whether they're honest.

The Court continued, “For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates ‘go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’ the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.”

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

So yes, I can 100% try to run.

But even if I win, the DNC doesn't have to listen to voters.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No primary this year

Well yeah, they already have an incumbent and no one was dumb enough to burn piles of money running a campaign to try and primary that candidate.

DNC influence

Yes, political parties are basically private clubs, you join them, donate money, pledge support etc. They aren't public entities any more than the Dallas Cowboys are. They exist to aggregate money and votes, and they elect their own leaders to manage those resources. If they decide to choose their candidate via tea leaves or throwing bones, no one could stop them, save to elect new party leaders.

I don't know how parties are run elsewhere, but thats how they work in the U.S. They aren't constitutionally codified or defended in any way. They're a shortcut for voters and super popular because they save people time and effort. If someone came up with a better way to all but guarantee votes for a candidate, it would instantly replace parties.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

Well yeah, they already have an incumbent and no one was dumb enough to burn piles of money running a campaign to try and primary that candidate.

No, no one had the option to try...

I

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago

Just so we're on the same page, each state decides how it chooses candidates to put on the ballot. That's the whole thing going on with DT and the SC right now.

Derived from that power is the president primary, where parties from each state decide who to present as their candidate.

The Democratic National Committee says "Ok, everyone should just submit Biden as the candidate and skip the primary" because that's what they decided is best.

It's now up to the state parties to implement that decision or not. New Hampshire, for example, decided to hold a primary anyway:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dnc-blasts-new-hampshire-democrats-over-detrimental-primary-plans/ar-AA1mArq2

But it's politics, so who knows if it'll actually happen. I just want to point out that the national committee doesn't have power over what the states get to do, it's all just a power brokering game.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

States can't put someone a ballot for a race that doesn't exist...

It's not that Biden is unopposed, it's that there isn't going to be a race.

And the only ones that have a say, are the people running the DNC.

Since that's mostly decided by how much money you can pull in...

How is this not the rich overriding democracy?

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's just not how it works. If New Hampshire decides to put Steamboat Willy on the ballot, only the SC could stop them, maybe. it's kind of up in the air right now apparently.

Realistically, no one wants to give up that sweet national committee money, so they'll probably cave, and it is the rich owning democracy. That's why I kept saying you'd have to light money on fire to get it done, but it could theoretically be done: you just have to grease a lot of wheels.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

tl;dr: be the highest bidder.

[-] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Sounds like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

everything I said is fact. It occurs to me in retrospect that the person I'm responding to doesn't realize that primaries are essentially a private function. If you make your own political party, you can have primaries every day!

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