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[–] swemg@sh.itjust.works 104 points 3 weeks ago (29 children)
[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 102 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Real tweet, fake text... no way any NATO leader would say "Europe is going to pay BIG" it's just too Trump. Same with the incessant comma splices.

But big congrats to Trump for ruining the information space so completely that I genuinely cannot tell what's real anymore.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm sure EVERY European politician randomly CAPITALISES words like some LUNATIC

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago

And signs their essay texts with their name. Very common as we all know.

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[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hasn't Rutte always been known for being able to handle Trump well? I'm pretty sure the only way to do that is kiss his ass in a way he understands, so this doesn't seem too surprising.

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[–] BA834024112@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

AP is reporting this as real

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I would love and hate to see proof that Mark Rutte really texted this to Trump.

The "Truth" post is 100% real, inarguably, but I haven't seen anyone reporting the picture is of a real message from Rutte to Trump.

E: never mind that is... apparently Rutte's office has confirmed the message is really from Rutte????

?????

I need to go lie down.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

I'm confused why people are surprised at this, to be honest. It's entirely expected.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's entirely expected, not sure why you're in disbelief.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 29 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It reads like something Trump wrote about himself. He's done that kind of bullshit before.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago

Trump has also leaked private messages before.

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[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 33 points 3 weeks ago

The Rutte team has confirmed it was indeed a real text sent by Mark Rutte to Trump.

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

World leaders have figured out he's functionally a toddler. Starmer and Trudeau took the same approach.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is so poorly written I have no idea if it's sarcasm or not.

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, looks like rutte writes English in the same way that he speaks it. Honestly I first thought that it was a shitpost, but no, it seems legit.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago

Rutte's unique approach to English merely reflects the fact that his intellectual ceiling would challenge even the most ambitious root vegetable.

[–] bigboismith@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

It's written in a way for Trump to understand

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Anyone else remember when libs were fearmongering that Trump will leave NATO and leftists said "don't threaten me with a good time"?

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Liberals are right-wing. Always have been, always will be.

Dutch liberals are not under the progressive umbrella,
so while the Dutch progressive party is advocating to stop the war,
Dutch liberals are in full support of it.

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 weeks ago

Communication is most effective in the language of receiver. Rutte emulates Trump like ChatGPT.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

obviously, I doubt Rutte was expecting this message to be shared. If he wasn't a complete moron and actually doing this just to stroke his own ego, I'd actually give Donald props for leaking it, as Rutte kissing Donald's ass makes him look terrible, and more broadly makes the European parts of NATO look terrible.

I imagine Rutte's intent is to stroke Trump's ego to try and keep him interested in NATO, but I feel like that's a fool's errand. Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone else but himself. This new agreement, with NATO signatories needing to commit 5% of their GDP, feels like a grift for the benefit of U.S. defense contractors. The U.S. cannot be trusted to actually honor their agreements anymore, so why pay more into their alliance? Is Europe really that scared of further Russian aggression?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Europeans online think that Rutte is 'masterfully manipulating' Trump by talking to him like a 5 year old and are extremely proud of this.

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[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Well Rutte's job is basically to keep NATO together, can't blame him for trying. Personally I would not be sad if NATO chucked the US and told them to pack their bases all around Europe and go home. But I understand Rutte's position.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I'd love it if that happened, but that would also mean the dissolution of NATO, so I don't see why NATO would motion to kill itself voluntarily.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 weeks ago

By the way Rutte changed the wording in the agreement to be more vague as to what 'allies' means because Spain refused to agree to 5%.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Does Trump not realize that this message makes himself look bad?

[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No. The message here is "look at how I´m having my dick sucked"

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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 3 weeks ago

Me: Trump needs to be taken to the Hague

Me: nooo not like that

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Well i just found out some of these NATO leaders were Nazis so NATO might just be a white supremacist group technically.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

NATO is just a millitary alliance for the purpose of maintaining Western Imperialism, which is headed by the US Empire.

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[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Well ... it's good to see there aren't just idiots in the US

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago

I’ve have said this before but WW3 will start because of a meme or ChatGPT.

[–] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idIxeAYnLGk

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte says he has 'no problem' with US President sharing private message

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[–] maki@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago

Career politicians doing what they do best, kissing their boss ass.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

“How are you traveling to His Majesty’s dinner? Mind if I get a ride swingin from your nuts?”

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 weeks ago

My sense at this point is that grotesque flattery works on Trump, but only to a point. Trump doesn't really like anyone, the best you can do is a slightly-better-than-neutral relationship. (And at the other end he's willing to coexist with anyone who hasn't personally slighted him, like Kim Jong Un)

[–] match@pawb.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

Oh my God I can just text the president while pretending to be anyone and shape world politics

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