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[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 47 points 6 days ago

Imagine paying $450 for nintendo to play judge and jury over your property

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

While I still have a nostaligic soft spot for Nintendo IPs like Mario and Metroid, I'll never give Nintendo a cent again for being a bunch of greedy asshats. Emulators are love, emulators are life, fuck Nintendo.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 6 days ago

Reason number 245 of why not to buy a Nintendo switch.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Same would happen with the Switch 1 if you play pirated games through sigpatch though

[–] Yttra@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

And with the 3DS, if you didn't strip the headers from games you ripped and played them on a different console

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It’s just not nearly as nefarious as it sounds. This person basically won the anti-lottery of buying a used game that was ripped and distributed on a piracy site and flagged by Nintendo. The chances of that happening when you buy a used game are unlikely as fuck… but because it can happen to individuals, they asked for a little proof that this user was telling the truth and then unbanned him when he provided it.

This isn’t something that’s going to happen to many people realistically but it’s nice that there’s a solution if it does.

[–] Statick@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's guilty until proven innocent on a device the person owns enforced by the company that made it.

Fuck that.

No company should have the power to brick a device because it isn't being used the way they want.

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So I also don’t like any of this and wish Nintendo would loosen the fuck up in general as they take in record profits… but I stand firm on the fact that this isn’t as nefarious as some are making it out to be, like they are specifically going after used games sales. It also won’t affect pretty much any of us ever and therefore isn’t worth getting my feathers ruffled over any. If it happens it can be sorted out relatively quickly.

[–] Statick@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They shouldn't be "going after" any game sales. All they are going to do is punish legitimate customers while the ones ACTUALLY stealing/pirating are going to sail free.

You really think a grandma that gets some games from a garage sale for their grandson or granddaughter is going to be happy when a game happens to be a pirated copy and bricks their device?

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But they aren’t going after used games sales. They are going after piracy. This used card just so happened to be the exact one ripped and uploaded to a piracy site, so on Nintendo’s end it looks like they are using a Mig flash device to play a game backup. So it’s not an attack on anybody for buying used games but a very unlikely and unfortunate incident that was solved with a phone call. If grandma happens to pick up a copy of a previously ripped game at a garage sale (amusing to imagine the guy who ripped it holding one of those in the year 2025 but possible) then a polite phone call explaining that situation would have also likely worked because I’m sure Nintendo wants to avoid the shit show of actually permanently banning innocent people.

Again, I’d prefer that Nintendo just relax on all of this but I’m not going to get all mad about it. Even the user who it happened to is less angry than some of you and said customer service was very fast and friendly about helping him. It will never ever happen to anyone in this thread or anybody that we know and even if it did it will be sorted out. I’ll save my outrage for things that are actually outrageous.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't want to play a numbers game with factors I have no control over, nor visibility into.

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

Lots of things in life are a numbers game you have no control over, often with consequences much worse than being temporarily inconvenienced having a ten minute interaction with customer service. Better never get into a car or airplane again, eh?

If you’re worried, save your store receipts or screenshots of listings for used Switch games and then this can be sorted in the very, very unlikely situation that this will happen to you. But it won’t.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 134 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, literally nobody in my circle of gamer friends and acquaintances has any interest whatsoever in buying the new Switch. Not a single one. Not even the ones that were previously diehard Nintendo and Zelda fans.

Zero.

Crap like this is really underscoring why. Nintendo has ramped up their already user-hostile behavior far beyond the point of absurdity.

The happy-fluffy-starry-eyed wording in this article taking great pains to point out how "easy" it was for this person to have their fraudulent ban reversed are doing way too much heavy lifting. It never should have happened in the first place, and there shouldn't even be any mechanism that makes it a remote possibility.

And then there's this:

Nevertheless, it remains unclear whether they can still play with the used game cartridges they purchased, or if these are considered pirated copies that could result in another console ban if used.

Uh-huh. Miss me with every single molecule of that shit.

[–] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I had a friend that went to the store at midnight to get the Nintendo he pre ordered.... Some people just don't care unfortunately

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Holy crap that was a fast reply lol. The part where they were like “at least it’s not as bad as m$ and Sony” like bruh THEY SHOULDNT BE DOING THIS AT ALL

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[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Imagine buying a hardware, and the manufacturer holds it hostage and can brick it anytime, or it can ban you from all online activities, unless you use it as intended.

It just happens that intended use also maximises profit for them.

Fuck Nintendo sideways.

[–] heythatsprettygood@feddit.uk 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

I do wonder what a more permanent solution for these sorts of situations could be, as right now these things are case by case. Either Nintendo tolerates the use of cloned cartridge IDs (which is something no game company/publisher/whatever have you would ever accept), or they bring down the ban hammer on random people who just bought a used game and had no idea it was used for copying (which is just a dick move). Nobody buying a used game is going to have any real idea where it came from, and in a lot of used stores the carts probably get mixed around anyway. Having any sort of checker for cloned IDs would also be difficult, as Nintendo's systems probably only catch it when both are in use at the same time. Perhaps they could use some system to look for MIG Switch use specifically, and only block that cartridge? That would probably be the best way to go about it, but I'm not so sure about the technical details that would make such a thing work, as it would require some reverse engineering of the MIG Switch.

EDIT: I do think as well this article is too generous to Nintendo. The writer focuses on how easy it was to get unbanned, rather than the ban in the first place. Nintendo should at least start sending an email warning or something before deciding to block online. That would give people a change to figure out what is going on, instead of waking up one day to find they can't access the eShop or GameChat.

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They could just... Not have tracking chips in our property? Piracy isn't a big deal, even with stupid shit like this driving more people towards it.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There's a darker solution, which is what nintendo would love more: kill the second hand market.

And these moves might very well do it. If news spread and people start getting scared of buying a used game, second hand sales will drop and eventually die. Something that can only benefit nintendo.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 6 days ago

And if anyone wants to play the original red&blue can pound sand, in their view.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have a foolproof way to never get banned on switch 2.

  1. Don't buy a switch 2.
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[–] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn. The people who work at Nintendo truly are assholes. I'll never buy a single product associated with these morally and creatively bankrupted people.

[–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 4 days ago

I swear Nintendo is the reason for the stereotypes about Japanese businessmen. Delusionally prideful, psychotically controlling, aggressively narcissistic, and entirely ass backwards.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Imagine if this happened to a child, or someone who's got no knowledge about the topic. Your 600$ birthday gift will just rest in piss, because you bought a game someone had cloned previously, and there's 0 way to know about it, until you're already banned

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