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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 76 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Me when I have to compile something myself: :(

Me when I install something from the AUR: yay

Edit: I don't use Chaotic AUR though. I'm more lawful neutral.

[-] SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Me when I have to compile something myself: :(

Me when I install something from the AUR: pikaur

Hmm doesn't sound quite right in my case

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I'm totally stealing that. Thank you :D

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

yay

Btw, "sudobin" : "ssu" rocks, no password needed.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I liked that

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

Just always write your own PKGBUILDs and never use the ones from AUR.

In fact, just write your own PKGBUILDs rather than using the Arch repos.

Make Arch Gentoo Again.

[-] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

I don't get all the noise around AUR being unsafe. Just verify the PKGBUILDS whenever you install or update something.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago

Just verify

requires basic programming knowledge or at least some time to get familiar with PKGBUILDs, and then they have to take the time to read it.

Yes, I agree people should at least look up where it loads data from, but people are lazy.

[-] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

I would argue that it's their own fault then. Laziness is not a valid excuse to put yourself so much at risk. If you start doing it consistently, it becomes a habit and won't take much effort. Of course, the familiarity with PKBUILD syntax has a learning curve

But a peer-reviewing system would be a better approach in AUR. Weird that it's not been implemented yet.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

I guess it can be assumed that a good number of people read the PKGBUILDs, so at some point malware would be found. A peer-reviewing system would give people a false sense of security, since the AUR is a user repository, where breakage should be expected (compared to the official repos).

[-] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

How would peer reviewing in a user repo be more a sense of false security compared to official repos? I don't know any of the arch maintainers, so for me it's also pure trust they don't do shady stuff.

Peer reviewing would not be failproof for sure, but at least it would give more security than not reviewing the pkbuilds, and especially to those that aren't too familiar with them

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

You're right, a peer-review system would be a net positive. Should updates be reviewed before publishing? This means updates take longer to arrive.

[-] take6056@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

I think the argument is pretty solid as an alternative to writing PKGBUILDs yourself. Sure it doesn't hold up for people unfamiliar, but Arch is build on the idea of getting yourself familiar with it.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Agreed. People should learn to read PKGBUILDs, but given how popular Arch(-based) distributions are, I do think many people won't bother. Afterall, many people download random things all the time.

[-] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I honestly, really hope you're being satire with this comment. Basic programming language, for a literal script, really bud' ?

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

That would be slackware current.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't talk about chaos until you've used the AUR on Manjaro.

[-] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 33 points 11 months ago

Honestly the AUR is the main thing stopping me from distro hopping...that and laziness

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

You can have AUR packages on other distros through ditrobox btw

[-] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago

Call me traditional, but I find regular AUR to be chaotic enough.

[-] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

At some point my arch system was more than half aur git packages.

So I just nooved to gentoo now and wait 5 hours for qtwebengine to compile for qutebrowser.

Don't regret it.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

Reminder that compilation from source is absolutely futile to support because of the arbitrary nature of libs and deps on the machine at time of build and replication of the environment for repro. KThx

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Right, that's why I use Gentoo.

Shit just works.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

If AUR is a golden hook I am that fish.

[-] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

What's this about chaotic being unsafe?

[-] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago

You can't inspect pkgbuild with Chaotic since Chaotic compiles the packages for you.

[-] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah. Most chaotic packages are pre built binaries. Saves you time, and usually not problematic, but has the potential to screw you in a big way. Kinda like opening anything in Outlook in Windows.

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