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submitted 8 months ago by jkelosed@feddit.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

This happens in Germany.

Work culture doesn't fit my personality: I don't talk much, I keep to myself, I simply want to do my job and go home, I separate my personal life from work, my colleagues are full fledged gossips, ignore the duties that need to be done and then expect me to help them when they are late. I don't have patience for that crap anymore.

Due to internal regulations, I have to stay on the unit for 4 weeks after sending my notice. Answering honestly the question of why I'm quitting would ensure that they yell at me and bully me, and I don't want to experience that again. Even saying 'it's none of your business' ensures that they feel insulted and start yelling. I have decided I don't have patience for people like that anymore.

So, what do I say?

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you risk people yelling at you for stopping, simply tell them there's too much yelling and drama for you.

Also if you have paid sick leave you could simply get ill depending on where you are and on union agreements at least here where I am, the employer has no right to know why you are sick. Just that you are. After a certain number of days/weeks they can ask for a doctors notice that you indeed can't work. But still the proof does not need to explain your illness. It just needs to confirm that you are not able to work. Most doctors will understand the strain of having to be somewhere where youre under this sort of pressure

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah I second this. OP's workplace sounds toxic as hell, so getting a doctors note for being stressed out is fine I think.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

“my doctor told me if I dont leave I will have a heart attack”

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

I am personally curious what "internal regulation" means?

[-] TheColonel@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

I believe that’s the rule in Germany, meaning, giving a month’s notice.

I didn’t realize it was regulated myself!

[-] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago

Exactly. There's a minimum 4 weeks that can be increased in the employment contract. Going up to 3 months is not rare, depending on the industry/type of job.

And it works both ways, so if the employer wants to fire you, the same notice period applies.

[-] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 4 points 8 months ago

It’s the same in the Netherlands, but the notice period for the employer is always double that of the employee.

[-] noobnarski@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

If its a contract with unlimited employment time, like most contracts in Germany are, he cant fire you anyway, at least not without a valid reason, which could include: stealing, not doing your job, always coming late when there are meetings, stuff like that. But you can only properly be fired for that, if you do it multiple times (depending on the severity), you will get written warnings beforehand.

Another reason is mass layoffs, but they have to have a valid reason too, which doesnt include "oops we hired too many people last year".

So under normal circumstances you will not get fired in Germany, its a different story if you only have a 2 year contract for example, then you might not get a renewal, but a company cannot indefinetly rehire you with a limited contract, they will have to give you an unlimited one, if they want to keep you for longer.

[-] Kindness@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

I found a good opportunity elsewhere.

My friend asked me to apply for a position they say has better career prospects.

America is hiring remote workers at better salaries.

Something unchangeable at this company reminds me of my dead dog and it's been killing me for years.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
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[-] deadbeef@lemmy.nz 6 points 8 months ago

This damnable prison of log and ice eats away at my fibre. I find the lack of culture astonishing.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

Krankenschein regelt.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Just say you're leaving for personal reasons. If they keep harassing you, can't you just.. not show up?

[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

“ I would love to stay but a personal matter has arisen “

Or

“I was made an incredible offer I could not refuse”

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Give them a boring answer them leave weird shit for them to find like maps to exotic places in your trash bin and secret coded messages in the photocopy machine

[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

It isn't any of their business unless you want it to be so just be vague as hell. "I got another offer that is a good opportunity." "I've decided to pursue other opportunities." They'll obviously ask questions and you can just remain vague. "I would rather not discuss specific details of my new job."

Or if you don't mind them speculating behind your back you can say as something like "I've decided to move on for personal reasons." Just leave it at that and let them sit there and wonder. Is a family member sick and needs care? Are you sick? Did you get a different job? Do you hate everyone? Are you going to prison? Who knows because you aren't telling them.

[-] genuineparts@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I have been activated. Сука Блядь Comrades!
Будем здоровы!

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

A loved one has (fill in the blank) medical issue, and I have to go take care of them for the foreseeable future.

[-] caesaravgvstvs@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

Will they find out that you quit? Would your supervisor tell them?

Also can't you just use your remaining vacations and call in sick to reduce the amount of time interacting with them?

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Just a note on this one. He may not have told his supervisor, at least where I live you don't have to tell them why.

[-] caesaravgvstvs@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

Not the reason, just that they quit. Some supervisors wouldn't tell the staff for a number of reasons

[-] quinkin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The mothership has been signalled and I must prepare the bunker.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Say you could never find the bathroom.

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago

Make the response about you and you only. Even referring to the workplace would be tricky. Some of your coworkers might take criticism of the workplace personally.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

You’re being voluntarily committed

You’re going underground with a raf cell

You’re pursuing your lifelong dream of living on a houseboat in Miami

[-] peereboominc@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

"I can't get any joy from the work anymore. I used to get joy from it. Don't get me wrong, the colleagues are nice and all"

Probably most of your colleagues will agree with you and nobody gets offended.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Just say: "many reasons" , and if they keep pressing you: "I'd rather not elaborate"

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

"My work here is done"

[-] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago

Is "going back to school" a thing in Germany? From what I know about that education system I'm guessing not, but in the US that's a standard answer.

"I want to move to be closer to my aging parents." - might work. If you haven't shared much about your life, it's an easy lie. And it's dull and depressing, so the odds of followup questions are slim. I hear it a lot when interviewing job candidates in our area.

[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 2 points 8 months ago

I need to move to Frisia to cater for my ailing mother.

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