I would love to provide a source but going off this particular user’s history it’s likely they will not accept it in good faith. If it is actually being requested I would be happy to oblige.
You’re right, it would be nice if we could refrain from juvenile namecalling or whatabouting.
You are correct there is nuance involving when party platforms switched, but not that the platforms switched.
Continue being in denial all you want but the parties absolutely switched platforms. Everything else in your comment was a deflection from you being wrong about this point.
It’s not a myth, that’s just something Republicans say to blame their past doings on the Democrats of today lol.
The Democrats used to be the party of small government, and Republicans the party of big government. Refusing to believe history doesn’t make you any less wrong.
Also you keep misspelling “gerrymandering”. If you can’t even learn to spell it how do you expect people to believe you understand it?
This was before the parties switched platforms, so it is not the slam dunk you think it is.
I always have opposed it, and always will. It’s not my fault we only have the illusion of a choice. I am not your enemy. I’m your peer who is going through this with you. Rather than argue with each other we should be figuring out how we can come together and stop this while we still can. “Vote blue no matter who” is not necessarily the answer. If it was, it would’ve worked by now.
Remember 2021 when Democrats controlled congress and the White House and tried to pass a massive reconciliation bill that STILL got watered down because of establishment Democrat holdouts whose fossil fuel industry donators would make less money if it passed?
What about when the Senate decided that because a unelected parliamentarian said so, they couldn’t give undocumented immigrants (including dreamers) legal status?:
These were all issues Democrats ran on and were elected to solve, and even with all the power to do so they somehow couldn’t get it across the finish line. This is a pattern for establishment democrats. Do just enough to make it look like they’re on your side without really doing anything to upset the status quo. Then they have the audacity to convince you and so many others that if we don’t keep them in power we are somehow the ones morally at fault?
FUCK THAT.
They have wasted every chance they got and shown that they would rather lose an election than learn lessons of the past failure and put out a popular message. As soon as the Supreme Court decided last year that Presidents were kings, Biden should have used that power to push through the rest of his agenda. Trump as a 34x convicted felon shouldn’t even be eligible to be President, but the DOJ did nothing to uphold this basic constitutional requirement and instead just let him back in.
If that weren’t enough, he even mentioned getting Elon to rig the election for him, ON ELECTION NIGHT. Why wasn’t that immediately investigated? Instead we just got reassurance that the election is highly secure. Maybe it wasn’t rigged, maybe it is secure, but why even leave it up to chance?
Trust me, I oppose EVERYTHING wrong with the current administration. But I’m also no longer going to be told how to vote by a party that fails every single time they get the chance to do the right thing.
I’ll be right there with ya pal. I hate this too. :(
Sorry man, you’re not going to scare me into voting your way. I already did that and we still got the concentration camps. At this point I’d rather have my dignity of choosing who I want to choose, rather than being pressured or shamed into choosing someone I don’t want.
The descent into fascism will continue as long as we continue to support only the two big parties. The only way we win their game is by not playing it.
If the Democrats want to win, they’ll pick a popular candidate with popular policies. If they want to lose, they’ll double-down on a losing strategy, which it seems they are.
That’s a vast oversimplification of what I stated but you do you.
I’m a minority, my family members are minorities, and just because this country doesn’t actually allow us to have a decent choice of candidate doesn’t mean I’m enabling nazis by refusing to choose which elite to fuck us over for another 4 years.
“I will continue to vote for the candidate that more closely aligns with my progressive policy stances and doesn’t want minorities to fuck off and die, rather than be scared into voting for the lesser evil which probably still wants us to fuck off and die” is my point, which is much different than what you just said.
For the record, I have voted D for every election that Trump has been on the ballot.
I 100% get what you’re saying, but 2/3 times that ended up being a waste of a vote.
Republicans vote Republican because they like what the Republican party does. Democrats vote Democrat either because they like what the Democratic Party does, or because of the Republican on the ballot. I’m simply refusing to allow my vote to continue to be held hostage under threat of a fascist that wins anyway. Anything else legitimizes the threat and perpetuates the 2 party system.
That isn’t to say I will no longer vote Democrat, I’m just not going to play into their narrative of “we’re less evil than the other guys” anymore when they fumble at every opportunity to fulfill their promises to their progressive base, while also refusing to change tactics and instead double down on trying to appeal to Republican-lites when it is made clear THAT is why they lost the election. The Overton window can only shift so much before you start realizing you don’t actually have a choice.
I have never voted for someone because I like their platform, and I want to dammit. If a Democrat wants my vote, they’re going to campaign on a platform I like, and will not get it for any other reason. They have scared me into giving me their vote and failed to deliver on their promises every single time.
What wiki article? My source was Reuters.
Regardless, all I can only comment on is my own take of the situation. And that take is his priorities conflicted with his campaign promises. This makes it harder to give my vote to future campaign promises by other candidates of the same political party.
Racism is too large a problem in the US to be constrained to a single political party unfortunately, and at no point have I defended the Democrats so I don’t think what I’ve been saying and your feelings of it conflict.
The party platforms switched (largely) due to the platform FDR ran on. Prior to that point, Democrat platform was centered around smaller, limited government.
https://factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/
However it wasn’t as clean as a single point in time you could point at and say “here, and these policies”. There was no handing over of anything and it wasn’t a cut and dry swap.
This is why a lot of Republicans will argue that the swap didn’t happen, because it was more like an evolution of stances over time with a few big notable shakeups and not really possible to pinpoint.
The source I provided above goes into some key points in history that serve as examples of how the parties switched platforms if that helps to understand it better.
One thing is clear though: the party of Lincoln and today’s Republican Party are similar only in name. For the most part, the same is true for Democrats. They are no longer the same party they were in the time period the other user continues to mention.