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why do some people hate kids so much?
I'll attempt a real answer. I don't hate kids or the parents of kids who care for them and raise them to be good people.
I hate that societal pressures place having kids at the near top of life's implicit goals. I hate that my wife and I almost had kids because of these pressures, when neither of us really wanted it. And if it weren't for one (slightly older than us) couple we were friends with sharing that they were childfree, we would be there, and likely unhappy about it. So we speak out, not out of hate, but just to provide the other side, it ok to have kids... It's ok to not, it's a choice.
Totally fair. Societal pressure is something to completely ignore though. Everyone doing the 'pressuring' can go fuck right off.
I have a kid. Second one on the way. I also don't like kids. None of them. I tolerate mine. I mean, I do all the good parenty things and stuff, but I can't wait for them to grow into adults.
That's the whole reason I want kids. Not because I want kids. But because I want adults I can call my children. Frankly, I don't know why, I just know I do. And I'm prepared to make the endless sacrifices that come with it. And I totally understand other people who don't want to do it.
Also, I hope to be able to raise some decent humans. The world can use those. It seems like assholes are breeding like crazy. I hope to offset that a little.
I see no hate in this thread.
We just don't want kids (or don't want to be around them). Doesn't necessarily mean we hate them.
idk, "shitty fucking kids" sounds pretty hateful and uncalled for
Let's be real, just like adults, some kids are awful. I've known good parents that get dealt a terror of a child.
Also, it's a meme that is obviously over the top. Child free people also don't have money falling out of their pockets. Don't be so serious.
You know what else is uncalled for?
enlighten me
Showing up in a group people use to vent and saying the very same kind of shit people are there to vent about.
Kids suck and parents break their backs trying to act like kids are the best thing ever.
"We don't want kids to be any near of us, which is totally not hating them"
I don't want homeless people near me either. Doesn't mean I hate them, or wish them poorly.
This is probably an unpopular opinion. But seriously tho.
I also want to give them free housing and jobs. Just leave me alone at the goddamn intersection.
Oh I love kids. Totally.
When they're not mine. Means I can give them back when they get defective and need maintenance.
I don't not have a boat because I hate boats. Same applies for kids aswell.
I must say tho thay when ever I hear my friends talk about their kids it's rarely about how nice they are.
I don't hate kids, but it would be a horrific nightmare for everyone involved if I had some of my own. Never wanted them, never will. I do adore my niece.
it's okay to not want them, but calling them "shitty fucking kids" or "crotch goblins" or other stupid names is a different matter and only reflects badly on the person who says these things
You are in a community devoted to the decision to not having kids. Just pointing that out since there does seem to be some confusion.
Which totally shouldn't justify it becoming an echo chamber of child-haters
It doesn't justify it at all, but it does add context
Why do you even care? CF people aren't going to bother you or your uninteresting children
...check the community name, my dude
I mean I don't want kids myself but the sheer toxic hatred of kids some people have is unhealthy imo.
Because they had a bad life and think they were "forced to be born (and then new humans would live a life as miserable as theirs)"
Everyone that has existed did have existence forced upon them though.
Doesn’t mean you have to be miserable, but existing was not a consensual decision (as far as we are currently able to understand).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Benatar
Gifts aren't consensual ;)
Noisy pestilent stupid destructive little goblins that demands your attention, resources and sleep lest they die. And should the child grow up to be dysfunctional shithead you are to blame. And should you recognize that you can't raise the child and give up for adoption, society brands you a failure and possibly induce massive trauma on the child.
But as my friend says: "they are cute while they're sleeping"