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If you think the pack is shocking, do not look at the price.
$50 for a pack of 25, talk about exploiting free choice
Wow, I had no idea it goes so high. Good for Australia, though. Cigarettes are cancer, literally.
Basic economics. Always tax something with inelastic demand.
Well and the fact that smokers will rely more heavily on the free health system - it's in the government's interest to prevent people smoking to save money.
That argument floats around a lot.
At least in my country, cigarettes contribute in taxes 4 times the amount that smokers take out of free healthcare system. Note that we don't have any "smoking-related stats", so everything's included - if you break a leg and you're a smoker, it's included in the figure.
Also note that the numbers are few years old but I don't think the ratio might have changed that much towards smokers contributing less, especially with the constant price increase for cigarettes.
Wow, that's insanely high! I wonder if that hasn't had the adverse effect of accidentally turning cigarettes into a sort of "status symbol" item in some places, as you gotta have a good chunk of expendable income to afford a habit like that.
So you're saying the Aussies found a way to tax the rich while simultaneously shortening their lifespan?
Don't worry, if you don't have enough you just spend half of your earnings on them
Are you serious? What in the heck? Are the tobacco lobbyists powerless? They used to run the damned world at one point not too long ago. I mean it's great that people are abandoning cigarettes, but this is surprising.
They lost like two decades ago.
They’ve moved to mainly selling to 6 year old kids in Indonesia as they know they lost here.
Why would parents let their 6 year old kids smoke cigarettes? There's very little chance that toddlers are able to get cigarettes without parental assistance.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/in-indonesia-big-tobacco-hasnt-got-a-worry-20120825-24tlu.html
https://bridges.monash.edu/articles/journal_contribution/Cigarette_retailer_density_around_schools_and_neighbourhoods_in_Bali_Indonesia_A_GIS_mapping/8940548
So they're terrible parents. Of course he really wants it, he's physically addicted at six years old with zero emotional maturity, or impulse control. It is their job as parents to ensure their child establishes healthy habits, and teach him how to be a human. Six year old kids don't obtain money freely. Obviously his parents are enabling him.
The issue is the society that has shops near schools and the shops that actually accept the money from the children. Not to mention the cigarette companies themselves targeting the these high growth markets for this very reason.
I’m not going to blame some poor parents in the 3rd world for not having the same degree of security and free time to spend with their children as we are privileged to.