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this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2024
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But if you say this about body shaming they'll just tell you their taret deserves it.
Bit of a strawman, no?
Less of a strawman and more of a non-sequitor whataboutism.
Ive seen this community making fun of people for their weight or claiming people have small dicks when they do something they dont like so not really. Point proven though, yall don't care about body shaming.
So you're generalizing, then pretending to take the moral high ground on a non-existant issue just to avoid agreeing that people shouldn't be misgendered, imagining a non-existant level of hypocrisy?
Where did I avoid agreeing with the post? If you're curious about something ask me instead of assuming based on nothing. Bodyshaming is wrong and it happens here, that's not non-existent. Thats the message, do you take offense to that because you seem real preseed to make accusations.
The meme is calling out people using misgendering as a punishment. You're then attacking people who point this out as guilty of hypocrisy by saying "they" are fine with bodyshaming.
Bodyshaming is wrong, yes, nobody brought that up except yourself and only as a way to attack some vague hypocrisy in an imagined enemy.
Again, I see bodyshaming happening here, thats not an imagined enemy unless you dont know what words mean. You're talking over me now and ignoreing what im saying, this being the third time I'm telling you it happens here so you can pretend im talking about no one. Stop with the intelectual dishonesty.
What I am doing is poiting out a similar punishment people do for bodyshaming, and for the fourth time, it happens on this very website. That makes it relevant no matter how mad you are about that. You wont even ask me about the original post after I told you to instead of assuming because then you won't be able to pretend im attacking anyone other that the hypocrites, who again exist on this site. Did I say it enough this time?
Show me. Show me where there is an overlap of people who think bodyshaming is okay and misgendering is not. Humans aren't a monolith.
https://lemm.ee/comment/8694192
Gee look at that, when it's someone detestable, no one even cares. I was looking for one I saw about a week ago where someone called them out for bodyshaming and got downvoted for it. Ill keep going, im sure theres more. On this site Bodyshaming gets you upvoted though. Gee if only someone tried to bring this up, im sure they'd be met with open dialogue and not baseless accusations and being talked over. Stay posted, I'll get more.
https://lemmy.world/comment/6998701
Glad this comment finally got out if the negatives but they're drowned out in number and number of votes by people insisting that insulting his disability is okay. Lemmy has a real problem with this, and assuming all of them also support misgegendering is short sighted, untrue, and unhelpful. Im sure user 'progressiveist' is a big time misgenderer though because that makes sense.
You do realize that's an entirely different post yeah? You also realize lemm.ee isn't lemmy right? I am not trying to attack you, nor did I look at where the person your arguing came from, but for them it could very well be non-existant. The community you join, determines what you see. This is the luxury of a federation.
There's nothing awkward about it at all, nobody deserves to be bodyshamed, period. Yes, being overweight is unhealthy. The vast, vast majority of overweight people know this. The only thing you accomplish by expressing your concerns and "acknowledging it's bad" unprompted is making the person feel worse, they're not gonna go "Wow, li10 is concerned about my weight, this was the moment I was waiting for to start being healthier". This isn't a hallmark movie, it rarely works like that.
If an overweight person expresses a desire to lose weight and be healthier, absolutely encourage and support that... but support looks like things like offering to be a gym buddy,sharing healthy recipes, words of encouragement as they progress, maybe even joining them on their diet, etc... and even then only if they've expressed a desire for that support. Telling them unprompted "I'm concerned about your health due to your weight" is NOT support, it's nothing but an empty platitude.
No. I don’t think it’s awkward. At all.
The only person whose weight and body is your business is your own. My body isn’t your business. Your neighbor’s body isn’t your business. Your coworkers body isn’t your business. It’s not your business and your opinion doesn’t matter about any body but your own.
So how about this… let’s just not talk about each other’s bodies and let people be who and what they are. Fat people have enough shit to deal with already and they don’t need shit from you too, whether it’s ’support in losing weight’ or criticism.
So if I decide to attach a bunch of lead weights to my body and enter the same elevator as you, it's only my business, is it?
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