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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The Virginia House of Delegates approved an assault weapons ban on a party line vote Friday.

Fairfax County Democratic Del. Dan Helmer’s bill would end the sale and transfer of assault firearms manufactured after July 1, 2024. It also prohibits the sale of certain large capacity magazines.

“This bill would stop the sale of weapons similar to those I and many of the other veterans carried in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Helmer said.

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[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

That's a fair thought. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and feelings on it.

For what it's worth, automatic (holding the trigger) weapons are not available to American civilians without a class 3 permit. This permit is expensive and requires (I think) annual reapplication. I have never met anyone with this permit.

As for magazine size, I like to have a higher capacity for more fun at the range. One person I know got a 50 round drum magazine for their handgun. If you saw it, it would look silly and the thing would not be easily concealed. It'd be like carrying around a full Nintendo 64.

For my own opinion on the matter I think we need to focus on proper storage. No need for a teenager to have unrestricted access to guns. If we stopped that, there wouldn't have been a columbine shooting. Most if not all gun accidents are from mishandling, any time a person underage has one, it's due to improper storage (not locked up). I guess what I'm saying is the responsibility falls on the gun owner to ensure their items are secure and handled properly and with respect.

[-] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

I have never met anyone with this permit.

That's because it doesn't exist. There are licensing requirements for manufacturers and dealers of NFA items, but as long as you're legally allowed to own them in your state, you don't need a permit to buy a registered and transferrable machine gun.

What you need is $10k at a minimum and time to wait for the ATF to approve your Form 4 transfer application.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

As for magazine size, I like to have a higher capacity for more fun at the range.

Many countries that the pro-gun community insists have "banned guns" will let you go to a range, unlicensed, and fire basically anything the range offers.

Meanwhile in America, scoping gun laws to reasonable use is staunchly opposed. We're supposed to accept that semi-automatic weapons with high capacity accessories are going to be sold to domestic terrorists and idiots, so people can "have fun at the range".

Not only is that deeply fucked in the head, it's not even necessary.

I have never met anyone with this permit.

What a strange coincidence, I've never heard of these weapons being used in a mass shooting or gang crime, despite the pro-gun community insisting that regulations don't work.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not necessary is not a good reason to not have something. Cars don't need to go 100mph, clothes don't need to have colors, Highly flavored foods are not necessary and actually may harm people with the preservatives and whatever else may be in the food. You're doing the same thing that conservatives do with border patrol reasons. "they could be terrorists and rapists. Not everyone who owns guns is a murderer, just like not every person crossing the border is a terrorist.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Cars don't need to go 100mph

Cars are subjected to licensing and safety regulations that are being constantly changed. Heavy vehicles will soon include mandatory ECU speed limiters to address exactly this. As far as I'm aware, drivers haven't been parading around making flowery death threats over it.

Highly flavored foods are not necessary and actually may harm people with the preservatives and whatever else may be in the food.

The FTC has had principles for marketing junk food to children for almost a decade and harmful additives are routinely banned. As far as I'm aware, children haven't been parading around making flowery death threats over it.

You're doing the same thing that conservatives do with border patrol reasons. "they could be terrorists and rapists

Which is why legal immigration processes scrutinize character and intent and can be revoked at any time.

All your "but other things are dangerous" list does is demonstrate that gun laws aren't held to the standard as any every other public risk.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

We’re supposed to accept that semi-automatic weapons with high capacity accessories are going to be sold to domestic terrorists and idiots, so people can “have fun at the range”.

could you be anymore reductive with this statement?

Not only is that deeply fucked in the head, it’s not even necessary.

yes, smack down that strawman argument you just propped up!!

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

I know you want to clean up after him and pretend there's some noble use for high capacity, semi-automatic weapons but it's literally the reason he gave for owning them.

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