NATLFED comes to mind when you say that, nothing to do with NZ, but the weird convoluted structure so no-one knows who is responsible for what

Oh well take it out of the case then

You're right, they didn't retire Wefwef.app, I see it now points to what they're calling Voyager - but if someone is looking for the current name the developers are using it is Voyager

Check out Voyager - wefwef is retired I think

I've been idly browsing local Facebook listings for second hand gear and the same shit sits there for months priced about what I paid for similar stuff years ago - sometimes higher

No, car windows once, bathroom mirror a few times. Didn't seem like it was worth it for that.

We've loved our window vac, WV2 I think, for sucking condensation off the windows. Way less mess and faster job overall than squeegee plus towel and even sucks it up off the sill. Maybe not a smart buy for how expensive it is, but over however many years of mopping up windows... worth

Just jumped in to liftoff and it's great so far