But when we talk about food deserts, that’s not where we’re talking about. We’re not talking about the vast majority. We’re talking about the other 20%, or 66 million Americans, who live in rural areas and who get a Dollar General instead of an Wegman’s.

On the contrary, we're very much talking about urban areas, because food deserts very much include urban areas.

I myself lived in a food desert until recently, despite the fact that my neighborhood is so urban I could easily ride my bike to the state capitol building. I had a choice of several supermarkets each about 2 miles away, but none within a mile until a new one opened a year or so ago.