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What counts as New Trek?
I enjoyed Discovery up until season 3. Then it lost me. SNW is fantastic though.
Also kind of pissy that they used the bury your gays trope. It's so old.
Back in my day, "new trek" was Enterprise!
Now get off my lawn.
(I'm not actually that old. Edit: also, I hate my lawn and don't care if you walk on it.)
Look at Mr Moneybags over here!
He has "have a lawn and don't even like it" kind of money!
Probably has a bank account that's in the black by double figures at least once a year!
I was able to buy a house during the Great Recession. I'm well aware of how lucky I am and how screwed just about everybody else of my generation is.
I was just messing with you, but yeah, shits fucked lol
My dog would love your lawn I'm sure. Together we'll make it into something nice!
I'm the opposite too, Disco really grabbed me in season 3. When Sadil told Burnham "that future is you," I was sold. I honestly teared up, you could feel the weight he carried his entire life being lifted. What a line. Plus the future is a better fit for them and helps avoid continuity issues and all that.
All the gay killin' was disappointing, I agree there.
I think I only got like three or four episodes into Discovery.
It's just, the whole schwooping them off to a different timeline didn't jive with me. It felt like they didn't like the plot they'd done so far and decided to do a soft reset? Maybe they didn't, but it was so strange and I couldn't get back into it at that point. I loved the mushroom stuff. I wanted to see more of May Ahearn. I loved the bit with her and Tilly, and I didn't feel like all that was done yet.
Have they picked that stuff back up since?
Yeah. Like, as a gay person I love seeing more LGBTQ representation, but it's at the same time kind of annoying when we're always killed off. I guess by some definitions ST:D doesn't really fill the bury your gays criteria but it's close enough to be irksome. Like, why must we always die? 😩
Disco had a rough start because the showrunner Bryan Fuller was fired during preproduction, and they drastically changed the story he had in mind and just ran with it. Fuller has writing credits for the first 3 episodes, which is about where we both gave up on the show (I started again a few years later and got caught up). Those first two seasons are real hit & miss for me, it kinda looked like they were scrambling to develop a compelling story but were under a tight deadline.
The part where they time travel was actually done well, I thought. I had some issues with the tone here and there, but I thought it made sense in universe. It's really too bad Disco had so much turmoil wrt creative control, because I look at how SNW and LD hit the ground running, and it's obvious they had a clear vision from day one and were able to plan everything properly.
On the other hand, Bryan Fuller was responsible for the thing people hated most of all about the first season of Discovery:
https://www.slashfilm.com/552474/bryan-fuller-redesigned-the-star-trek-discovery-klingons/
I think I'm still on the fence about the revamped Klingon look; I would be 100% ok with it, though, if they reveal it's just the way that Klingon house/subspecies evolved, as some of the fan theories go. The changes are so drastic (even moreso than the changes made between TOS and TNG) that it's jarring. What I never got used to was the Klingon mouth prosthetics; they were so unwieldy that it was hard to understand the dialogue at times. I had to turn on closed captioning.