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Biden’s $30m weekend fundraising blitz breaks Democratic Party records.
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And trump raised way more by being convicted
Trump raised more than Biden last election and still lost
From small donors too, the benefit of small donors is they can keep giving.
Once someone gives the ~million to BVF, they're tapped out. And they tend to give as much as they can to attend something like this, then they're tapped out for the race.
With small donors campaigns can spend as they earn, with large donors you have to try to budget. Which lets small donors campaigns get off to a fast start.
Going after just big money isn't a good strategy, and the DNC should have learned that lesson from the 2016 primary and then the general.
Instead they've doubled down on chasing the wealthy.
102% true. Just like the 102,000 people that attended his rally
(/s)
How can you put anything he says out as true?
Weird...
So you think trump and all the rubes are lying about donating him money?
Like. Yeah, trumo lies about most things, but you think he convinced millions of idiots to claim they donated money to him, but not actually donate?
It's trump...
Why would he ever want people to not give him money?
Like, I've never heard anyone call into his question that trump gets money from poor dumb people...
Just sayin’.
This was not an official document. It would be much easier to get 40 rich dudes who stand to make bank off his election to write checks and just claim it was small donations.
By all means, do t take a politicians word on anything.
But like, a bunch of poor people definitely give money to trump, it's his bread and butter.
He gets plenty from large so it's too, it's just weird someone would act like he doesn't get any
And small donations still get tracked, campaigns are responsible for not accepting anything over the limit, so there are rules about tracking.
Now, if you wanted to argue that they're doing some kind of straw donation scheme where a wealthy person gives money to friends so they can donate...
Yeah, that can happen, and kind of what bundling is but there's access and Influence to the bundler at play too. Like, if a business associate you want a deal with asks you to bundle implying it helps the odds of a deal or something.
That's plausible.
But there's still a bunch of idiots that donate to trump every pay period.
The DNC gets about half of it's donations from small donors versus the RNC getting about 30 percent. You're yelling at the wrong tree.
You got a source?
Like, legitimately not trying to start an argument. Stuff like this where things are better than I thought is good news, so I genuinely would like to see that you're right.
Open Secrets tracks fundraising. I left a link in my other comment.
Thanks!
The confusion is that doesn't include outside money:
https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/candidate-and-outside-committees-totals?curr_cands=Y
Which also wouldn't include the DNC share from the Biden Victory Fund.
https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00744946/
Biden has a lot more cash available than the 195 million in your link, that was the big red flag. I mean, he had this 30 million weekend, another 60 million just a couple weeks ago I think.
The math didn't add up for your numbers and what keeps getting reported, but it was pretty easy to find where the wires got crossed.
Yeah I see that. As far as my original point though the Democrats are still way ahead on small donations. Assuming the PACs are all large donations, Trump has a bit more outside money supporting him. So the ratio between the two doesn't really change, just the actual numbers being smaller.
Maybe.
trump also uses PACs and his daughter-in-law has the RNC purse strings.
The whole system is intentionally confusing and designed to make it hard to track money.
I did just find this article that I might post I'm not sure if 2 weeks is out of date tho
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-64-million-mystery-anonymous-donations-2024-presidential-campaign/
What we should probably be looking at for this is the number of small donors.
I couldn't find that anywhere, but Biden did just pass trump on total number of donors last month, which might just be the Haley bump.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/16/us/elections/biden-trump-donors.html