[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

There's certainly a reason hardcore activists in the environmentalist and animal rights movements were targeted so heavily. I'm partial to the belief that it's something way too many people might empathize with or even worse, copy. It's also a pipeline into real leftism and anti-capitalism that can't be countered with muh 100 gorgiollion dead from cummunism

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm conflicted, as I do believe that action for the sake of the climate is morally correct, but that these actions aren't accomplishing much of anything at this point.

Andreas Malm has done a few talks about XR, Just Stop Oil, or Insulate Brittain vs groups like Tyre Extinguishers, Ende Gelända, or Les Soulèvements de la Terre: his conclusion is that the former groups have done some amount of good with consciousness raising but at this point those who are going to be moved or sympathetic have been 'activated' and further nuisance activities alone will not advance the cause further and could instead harden people against the movement because it is action that is seemingly targeting 'regular people' and not the ones responsible for the situation we are in. He commends the groups for targeting banks and other institutions but doesn't believe actions like blocking roads for the sake of doing so (obstruction of access to specific targets is another story) or throwing powder on a game advance the cause.

He goes on to say that arrests should never been seen as some kind of virtuous thing and instead should be seen as failures because it is taking people out of the movement and making their further contributions more difficult and potentially dangerous for their continued freedom.

I generally defend blocking roads as an act of protest, but I also understand the idea that there needs to be further escalation targeting the actual polluters because you will never turn all of the western public to your side.

Here are a couple of the talks I'm referring to, interesting to listen to the perspectives:

Panel discussion on potential future of the movement

Individual talk about where we stand today

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

Well if you have to have 28 of them...

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I kept wondering if they believed that as well or was purely for the rubes. Like isn't the whole point of guerilla warfare that it's decentralized and somewhat grassroots via pockets of resistance fighters with varying degrees of coordination

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Speculation it was deleted in part due to the laptop showing a picture of an IOF member which is blurred in the current one

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

im-vegan

Tofu and lentils are so much cheaper than meat.

Diy'ing things too. If you ever need a new tool or household item or have to fix something you're almost certainly not the first, so searching up DIY _ or How to Fix _ will almost always pull up a handy guide. I've saved thousands at this point

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Nah I think the people who constantly make the most barbaric decisions or excuse why they can't revert them are the ones being anti-democratic.

Wouldn't those with the power given to them by the population who then act against what those voters want be the anti-democratic ones?

I struggle to see how potential voters pointing out they never get what they ask for is the reason for any of our problems today.

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Hey, uh, I think this thing is broken

Nah, it's working as intended, if you look back here both levers are pressing this button that says 'Barbarism'

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

I'm not claiming the event was an operation, more that it was clearly in a conflict zone with combatants in the crowd. I don't know about you, but I'm not in the practice of attending raves outside a concentration camp with tanks on site.

So what is your grand solution on coming to a solution then? Palestinians die each day nothing happens to bring them freedom. There is sweeping support for Israel from the most powerful nations in the world and little for Palestine, the feet dragging, Israeli slanted proposals obviously aren't in Palestinians' best interest, so conflict is unsurprising

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Had the misfortune of listening to State Department and White House policy ghouls talk to a class recently. They don't believe moving to less fossil fuels quickly is viable because we'd become "dangerously dependent on Chinese minerals for batteries and solar cells" ignoring the fact that the entire globe is "dangerously dependent" on a liveable climate

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