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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 257 points 1 month ago

This isn't surprising, it's inevitable.

If you folks knew how common pedophilic fantasies are amongst the general public, you would be shocked. Just look to cultures like Japan and Russia that don't strongly condemn such things, and you'll find it's about 15% of the population. It's only less in the West because of the near homicidal stigma attached to it that makes people vigorously hide that part of themselves.

Fortunately, this also shows that the vast majority of those people don't offend.

We also tend to define pedophilia as "anything sexual involving a minor", while reacting to it as if it means "violent rape of a toddler", so no shit, we sexualize youth all the time, the 18 year mark is a legal and social formality, not a hard limit on human attraction. Adults will find themselves attracted to teens, and they won't reveal that because who the fuck ever would?

If anything, the issue isn't that people have these attractions and fantasies, it is that some portion of those people can't separate fantasy from reality and are willing to hurt a child to get what they want, or they are sociopaths that consume child porn without feeling disgust for witnessing horrific child abuse.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

to cultures like Japan and Russia that don’t strongly condemn such things

As someone from Russia - what?

Unless you mean being attracted to post-puberty, but pre-legal girls. That, ahem, makes sense biologically.

Girls of that age are sometimes kinda cruel to boys, though, so my personal teenage years trauma prevents me from dreaming of them. But if not for it, I think I would.

Toddlers are a completely different issue.

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 month ago

There is this thing that I feel is most prevalent in the USA, to call any attraction to a girl under the age of 18 pedophilia. Because that's the age to star in porn. The term should truly be used for attraction to children. I think it's an extension of the "pedo panic" where every man is assumed for some reason to be a child rapist now.

As such almost every young man could at some point be caught as a "pedophile"- 17 year olds sneak into clubs all the time, for example. 20 year old hooked up with one? Now he is considered a pedophile even if the actual age of consent is lower.

Meanwhile the porn industry glorifies "barely 18" girls as something highly desirable. It's a little messed up to say the least.

Actual pedos who are into kids should be put in mental institutions. But I would strongly suspect that 15% stated just includes honest young men and creepy old men, none of which are truly pedophiles. That number is way too high.

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