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[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Lemmy.ml attacking the Kremlin's enemies, what a surprise.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

No, they're pointing out the obvious. Newsweek isn't what it used to be, and the claims are all sourced from Ukraine, with no external on the record confirmations, yet.

Ukrainian media has a moral obligation to service the propaganda needs of the war. That's neither good, nor bad, that's just a part of being in an existential war for survival. I don't blame them for it, and I'm certainly not bashing them for, I'm just pointing out reality.

I can't speak for the person you're responding to, but I have no trouble understanding why North Korea would send thousands of support personnel to Ukraine as the logistical tail to support their weapons platforms. Western nations have been doing the same thing inside Ukraine.

Maybe the story is true, it's possible. But I'm going to need to see better sources provided then a Kyiv Post article citing unnamed Western officials or Newsweek using Ukrainian articles as their source information.

That's it. If anything, it's more unreasonable to not be skeptical of early reports coming from any war zone, whether you want to believe them, or not.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The core of what they say is truthful, just like most propaganda. Why bother pointing it out? Why automatically doubt Ukraine, calling them very biased "at best"?

Because it's designed to undermine Ukraine and support the Kremlin and Pyong Yang.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago

True, and Russia is always the one lying, it's their own strategy, Ukraine numbers are backed by CiA and UK intelligence right after, they actually lose support if they start lying, not Russia they only have lies, so fuck .ml

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