this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
627 points (80.3% liked)

Memes

51527 readers
1487 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (14 children)

What is worse, a brutal authoritarian empire which tries to occupy Eastern Europe and Central Asia or one that actually does it?

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)
  1. What made the USSR brutal?
  2. What made the USSR authoritarian?
  3. Are you willing to apply the same standards to all countries?
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The Soviet Empire directly occupied every constituent "Republic" as colonies, as well as occupied the Warsaw Pact countries as satellite vassals, and used military force to put down any rebellion from their puppet nations in the Warpac. They denied the people any say in government, subverted unions into agents of the state instead of advocates for the workers, and systematically crushed any domestic political dissent using secret police.

As to whether I'm okay with consistently applying that? Sure. The last time the US fought a military conflict in order to annex a nation into empire was 1902. The Soviets did it consistently throughout their empire's existence.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

secret police.

This is what you call "intelligence agencies in a country I dislike"

cointelpro, mkultra, etc. etc.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Hell, just look at undercover cops and wiretaps.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)