Liberals always try to force leftists to 'pledge allegiance' to hyperfocused truisms that they take in isolation and try to make determinative of the entire subject. parenti

I'll bite. Yes. Russia invaded. No. Russia did not start a war with Ukraine. They joined an existing war with Ukraine in progress.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

That they started by taking Crimea, exactly.

[–] zkikiz@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Apologists always want to go back to who really threw the first stone, as if Russia has been a great world citizen this whole time and as if imperialist invasion was a great way to reduce sanctions or increase economic cooperation

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well they were, for the most part, until the illegal dissolution of the USSR in 1991.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Bro I’ll craft apologisms for the USSR occasionally but the idea that they were a non-interventionist polity is fucking ridiculous. The USSR tried to overthrow like half of the governments in the world.

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