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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Which is also the standard the world over

[–] Neuron@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

It's absolutely not. There used to be right to trial by jury in all cases in Hong Kong before China took it away, which is what this article is about. So already it's clearly not the "world standard." Another example, United States routinely holds jury trials with classified national defense information and goes to great lengths to create a system to do this, since there is a constitutional guarantee to a trial by Jury. Process explained in this article: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/14/trump-trial-classified-documents-public-00102023 in regards to the trump case, which is a great example involving highly sensitive national security information. And that involves a jury too. I'd say you could just search online yourself and find out how wrong you are, but i doubt you're arguing in good faith. So as you can see, the standard in China is not the same thing as the standard "the world over." This was a right forcibly removed from the people of Hong Kong by China.

Take your authoritarian apologist made up nonsense elsewhere.

[–] ElHexo@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I understand you're saying China's administration of Hong Kong should follow UK practices?

Diplock courts were criminal courts in Northern Ireland for non-jury trial of specified serious crimes ("scheduled offences"). They were introduced by the Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1973 and used for serious and terrorism-related cases during the Troubles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplock_court

[–] Neuron@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're saying that what the UK did in 1973 in was wrong? So China should copy that wrong and withhold a right to trial by jury from their citizens to persecute political prisoners as well? Weird take but alright, if that's your viewpoint. Enjoy authoritarianism.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

They didn't just do it in 1973, they do it to this day and it seemed to be used regularly until 2007.

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