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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (18 children)

Slave owners argued that their slaves received benefits, like a place to sleep and food. Such arguments are only convincing to those who benefit from exploiting the bodies of vulnerable individuals. These arguments exist not to convince others, but to alleviate moral conflict within the person giving the argument.

The truth is, neither slaves nor animals need an owner's help to live and thrive, all such can do is prevent their innate expressions and rob their autonomy. Virtually anyone here would sacrifice some food and sleep for the autonomy to choose their own mate, raise their own children, and choose the effect they have on the world.

[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If I just let my dog go out and be free and wild, he would be dead within a week. He's 12 lbs, doesn't know the difference between poison and food, and thinks he's bigger than most predators. There's no such thing as a Dachshund in the wild. We have been domesticated by dogs and cats just as much as we have domesticated them. Our whole cultural trajectory exists because of that. The story of humanity is the story of domestication. You're deluded.

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Maybe not deluded but definitely taking a moral high ground so high you can see straight up their whole ass.

To be clear, not arguing for slavery. Just pointing out that comparing human bondage and enslavement to animal domestication, is incredibly demeaning and dehumanizing to those enslaved people’s.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'd argue it can alternatively be viewed as humanizing the animals instead of dehumanizing slaves. There are people who feel a human life is not superior to animal's life. They see the suffering of domesticated animals (eg. cows, pigs) as a super cruel kind of slavery, without being less repulsed and shocked by human slavery.

[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 hours ago

Yes, absolutely agreed

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