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feddit.org defederated quokk.au for calling their mods zionists (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 2 days ago by MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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https://feddit.org/post/12851368

https://feddit.org/post/12529640

due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.

One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.

I think it's reasonable and should be considered the default approach to defederate instances that have defederated with you. I'm not trying to sound like I'm supporting ~~allegedly~~ Zionist admins ~~(and I'm only saying allegedly because I haven't read the full context yet)~~. I would suggest changing the title to say that quokk.au defederated over the Zionism rather than feddit defederated over it if quokk.au was the first to defederate of the pair.

One sided federation causing strange issues that may be confusing to users.

Also fuck Zionists and Nazis in case this sounds too defensive.

Edit: while I understand feddit admins' position and not wanting to get into legal trouble, that doesn't magically absolve them of the term Zionist. I think it's fair to call it Zionism. The legal scenario they're concerned about, if it happened, would be Zionist.

[–] rumimevlevi 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do the admins really believe that thr government with arrest an random person managing a community in a niche social media?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Either they're Zionist and lying as a cover, or they do believe it and so are unwilling to resist such a far fetched miniscule possiblity that they're doing the Zionists work for them. So yeah, Zionist is fair criticism.