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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago (23 children)

That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

Here's a small example:

/ANGLE {
   newpath
   100 0 moveto
   0 0 lineto
   100 50 lineto
   stroke
} def

10 setlinewidth
0 setlinejoin
100 200 translate
ANGLE

1 setlinejoin
0 70 translate
ANGLE

2 setlinejoin
0 70 translate
ANGLE

As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HTML5 + CSS3 seems to be Turing complete too: https://lemire.me/blog/2011/03/08/breaking-news-htmlcss-is-turing-complete/

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Forgive me if this sounds rude but it's the best way to explain in my mind, please take it in jest.

- lemon is sweet.
+ no, lemon is sour.
- well, Lemmon+sugar is sweet.
+ ?????????????

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