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[–] Nanook@lemm.ee 229 points 4 weeks ago (64 children)

lol is this news? I mean we call it AI, but it’s just LLM and variants it doesn’t think.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (27 children)

"It's part of the history of the field of artificial intelligence that every time somebody figured out how to make a computer do something—play good checkers, solve simple but relatively informal problems—there was a chorus of critics to say, 'that's not thinking'." -Pamela McCorduck´.
It's called the AI Effect.

As Larry Tesler puts it, "AI is whatever hasn't been done yet.".

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (13 children)

That entire paragraph is much better at supporting the precise opposite argument. Computers can beat Kasparov at chess, but they're clearly not thinking when making a move - even if we use the most open biological definitions for thinking.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

By that metric, you can argue Kasparov isn't thinking during chess, either. A lot of human chess "thinking" is recalling memorized openings, evaluating positions many moves deep, and other tasks that map to what a chess engine does. Of course Kasparov is thinking, but then you have to conclude that the AI is thinking too. Thinking isn't a magic process, nor is it tightly coupled to human-like brain processes as we like to think.

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