Hey m@tes, as y'all know, this instance has been anti-corporate GenAI positive since it's creation and as such we've typically allowed such content to be posted freely. However in the last few weeks we've had a bunch of drama from GenAI haters who insist on coming into our comms and starting slap-fights. This caused us to vote on a new rule to have the mandate to clear out this constant friction. This worked to an extent, but I think we can help foster a better community with the larger threadiverse.
One issue a lot of anti-GenAI people keep bringing is that while they can block dedicated comms like !stable_diffusion_art@lemmy.dbzer0.com, they don't have an easy option to avoid GenAI content in random other /0 comms as there's no way to filter it out. This kind of content has been seen to cause a lot of strife, because people complain about its existence, while /0 admins and mods based on the above rule, tend to sanction those complaining. This then causes drama loops with /c/YPTB and /c/FuckAI etc.
There is a good point to be made here that while we don't mind GenAI content in /0, there isn't a reason to not help others avoid it. So we want to institute the following soft rule by now:
Simply tag your posts which consist of primarily GenAI content with the [GenAI] tag in their title. Not only will frontends like Tesseract will natively parse this as a tag and display it accordingly, but people who dislike such content, can simply filter it out of their feeds. Eventually lemmy will add tags which will make this tagging more seamless, but for now a manual tag in the title will suffice.
This rule only applies to posts in non-explicit GenAI comms. The assumption is that people can simply block those comms completely anyway.
As I said, this is a soft rule for now. Soft in the sense that you're not going to be sanctioned for forgetting it, but we hope people will remind you to do so. This is a good-faith attempt by us to co-exist and help others avoid what they don't want to stumble onto, much like [NSFW] tags. So I hope you'll add do a good faith attempt to help us in this. Furthermore, people who come to posts tagged as GenAI explicitly to scold and start slap-fights, will give the admins and easier justification to clean up, since they could have just filtered out that content in the first place.
Cheers
Then people who hate ai should be grateful, because they don't want anything to do with that community anyway. :)
However, it doesn't feel good to have it happen. Especially since db0 is an instance against the abuse of power. You go about your day and see a comment you disagree with. You downvote it. The commenter winds up being a mod somewhere else and bans you from their communities.
That doesn't seem fair, does it? And using the excuse of "preemptively banning an AI downvote troll" is not a very good one. If they had been banned after they had gone in to just downvote everyone talking about AI in a community, okay. But you shouldn't be able to "Minority Report" people.
Som of the bans were used as a form of disrespect. You can't tell me some of the bans weren't done just to piss the other person off because they were pissed off, no matter which way you sugar coat it. If you don't like being downvoted, you probably just shouldn't comment or post on any platform with that mechanic.
I have never even looked into how to see who's downvoted me. I don't want to. That person had an opinion that didn't align with mine. That's it and that's all it should be. The act of viewing and banning who's downvoted who should really only be used when there's an obvious troll in the community who's already mass downvoted everything in the community.
The arguments against preemptive bans feel petty and are coming from a place of someone who hasn't moderated. You're basically saying that as a mod if I see someone being a troll, or brigading, or saying (threatening) they're going to that I should just sit by and wait for them to do so. Especially when a large proportion of these trolls are willing to go above and beyond to be hurtful and spiteful.
This is what we're dealing with here:
Yeah, those dipshits outright impersonated and bullied me saying weird and gross crap like this.
So no I'm not going to sit by and watch people from the sidelines until they target me and my community and no one else should either. People want to be shitheads they should expect to find themselves banned from places they never heard of for being shitheads. Don't like it? Stop being a shithead. And yes that does include obvious forms of brigading like going to someone's profile and downvoting every comment they posted, or downvoting every post in a community, or downvoting all the comments under a post.
There's no easy solution to this, because people who aren't doing stupid shit like that are still getting caught in the crossfire.
I don't envy your position. Its the main reason I haven't started a community, even though I've had the itch to make a proper modded minecraft and kratom communities.
I do get it. You have to protect your community first and foremost... I just wish there was a better solution. I've been thinking and thinking about it and coming up empty, tbh.