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This study from MIT used geo data collected from cars in Milan, Italy, to check the effectiveness of 30 km/h zones in reducing speed.

The first conclusion is that the signs don't work: 85 percentile speeds are all over the place in 30 km/h zones in Milan, as shown in the figure below:

85th percentile speed profiles of the 30 km/h zones in the City of Milan.

The second step was finding correlations between speeds and street features extracted from openstreetmap. Results are as expected: narrow, short, curvy sections correlate with lower speeds, as do 1 lane vs more, one way vs 2 ways:

OSM features comparison between high and low compliance Zones 30. We report the features with the lowest ๐‘-values in the Mann-Whitney U test. All ๐‘-values are below 0.001.

The final step is also interesting: the authors made a model to predict the compliance of 30 km/h speed limit on streets that are 50 km/h at the moment. Useful for urban planning to understand if charging an area to 30 km/h would need structural interventions (like bumps, narrowing of the street...) or not:

Predicted speed 85th speed percentile with city-wide adoption of limit at 30 km/h

There is so much more in the article, I suggest to read it fully.

crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114827312307353297

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[โ€“] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

If the limit is setup appropriately. Loads of roads have the limit set where you would think the speed limit is 80km/h but somehow it is set to 50km/h. So everyone ignores the set limit. While at other roads the limit is say 70km/h but you can hardly drive over 50km/h.

[โ€“] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

The limit should be set to whatever is deemed safe for pedestrians and cyclists in a given location. The road design should then match that speed limit.

Loads of roads have the limit set where you would think the speed limit is 80km/h but somehow it is set to 50km/h

So the road should be redesigned to make it hard to drive over 50 (make it more narrow and add traffic calming)

[โ€“] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No. If it is a almost straight road only for cars and such. No bicycle's or slower vehicles near it. It shut be 80 and their is no reason for it to be 50.. At least that are the most cases I come across.

[โ€“] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are there "things" around the road? Houses, workplaces, industrial estates, parks? If so, there will be people walking and cycling on the road, and the speed limit should be 50 (or ideally 30). If it's just a road in the middle of nowhere, sure, make it 80/100 depending on how well you can maintain it.

Nope just fields of grass and some trees that are far away.

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