It doesn’t leave only negotiations. Russia tried for 10+ years in Afghanistan. The US the same, there and in Vietnam. There is such as giving up and going home. That’s the “win” a small state can inflict on a large one. I don’t think that’s where Ukraine and Russia is headed, but there’s a quick for Ukraine and a slow “win” for Ukraine.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

So in your mind there's no situation where ukraine doesn't win this war?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

For sure there’s a real risk Ukraine isn’t winning this war. But there’s never been a war where there’s absolute certainty one side will win, until we get to the “downfall” times.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you think they should just keep sending conscripts to die until the downfall times or until Russia just decides to leave?

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You think Russia should keep sending conscripts to die or should they just leave?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

They can just keep sending missiles and artillery shells to die, they've got the initiative rn

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