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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Half of us literally voted for it specifically and will defend it, the other half feel powerless. Most of us abso-fucking-lutely know it's happening. I've seen it in my daily life, people I interacted with just gone after years of being here, no recourse.

Then there are those that know and downplay it. "Well they were immigrants, they were stupid if they lost their greencard". When I reply with "uh, it's us citizens next" they are too afraid and hopeless to accept it.

[–] cheloxin@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I wish people like you would stop saying half voted for it and half didn't. In reality, ⅕ voted for it, ⅕ against it, and ⅗ don't have any accurate representation in this phony system of choice so they didn't vote at all.

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's the system you have. It doesn't matter if you have accurate representation. If you don't hold your nose and make a decision, it will be made for you.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People are much more likely to vote for something than against. That won't change by browbeating them. Only changing the system will have an effect.

[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can't change the system if people don't vote, though. So go vote. You can't just sit at home and lament how broken the system is, not participating, and then expecting it to somehow change without any effort. Not saying this is you, but the idea you're defending.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

And you can't change the fact that you won't convince people to vote for you by browbeating them.

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