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    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -5 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    The process is simple:

    1. Patch Tuesday happens, updates are rolled out.
    2. Within 0-4 days (or therabouts) of a Patch Tuesday, updates hit your device.
    3. Everything is happening 100% in the background at this point. Updates are getting prepped for installation.
    4. If you haven't rebooted to apply the updates for about 4-7 days, you'll start getting notifications that you should
    5. If you have Active Hours set up, the OS will not bother you while these are active.
    6. After something like 10-14 days you might be forced to apply the updates.

    To each their own, but I wouldn't call this "disrespecting the user". And "forcing updates at an inconvenient time" is just silly, with how much leeway you're getting.

    Also: maybe you're used to something much faster, but, personally, I don't find clicking "update and shutdown" when I go to sleep and then coming back to an updated PC in the morning that problematic. The longest I had to sit through the updates was 20 minutes because I wanted to apply a Feature Update.

    I guess my point is: there's A LOT to bash Microsoft and Windows for. No need to invent things that aren't there.

    [–] Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

    Yeah right...come to tell this again when you DON'T want an update(because it may break something like what happened with SSDs or you just want to wait a little more than others so you get something more stable) and you need to keep postpone instead of blocking the update and then when you don't expect it "shutdown and update" thank you! Right now that i was about to close my laptop because i have to exit my damn school!

    At least with a Fedora i can just choose when i need it or with debian i don't have to update often and if i must say at least with Linux i have to reboot my system only when the kernel get an update

    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Yeah right…come to tell this again when you DON’T want an update

    As a guy who worked in IT for the past 20 years - yeah, fuck that, force the general public to update. I'd add a feature that if they try to fuck with the update system they get whipped.

    There's enough botnets already.

    because it may break something like what happened with SSDs

    That happened to, what? 0,000001% of devices? And got fixed pretty quickly - more than enough time for the built-in defer update options.

    Right now that i was about to close my laptop because i have to exit my damn school

    Set your Active Hours, mate...

    At least with a Fedora i can just choose when i need it or with debian i don’t have to update often and if i must say at least with Linux i have to reboot my system only when the kernel get an update

    It's fantastic that we can do that on Linux, I love it. But 99,9999% of the population of this planet has no clue wtf they're doing. Security updates are like vaccines - everybody needs them so we can build herd immunity.

    [–] Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    happened to what? 0,0000001% devices?

    I always prefer to wait at least 3 days to see if there is any problem with the update to be honest so i don'5 have to deal with it at all, why risk having my workflow compromised?

    Set your active hours, mate...

    I would have to change it every week since i don't have fixed hours, it's just too inconvenient.

    It's fantastic that we can do that on linux...

    Yeah i agree but out there not everyone is a normie that can barely create a folder, if i want the update to be delayed i shouldn't be limited by the OS!

    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

    I always prefer to wait at least 3 days to see if there is any problem with the update to be honest so i don’5 have to deal with it at all, why risk having my workflow compromised?

    True!

    Which is why Windows lets you defer updates for around 14 days.

    Yeah i agree but out there not everyone is a normie that can barely create a folder, if i want the update to be delayed i shouldn’t be limited by the OS!

    The issue is that there are TONNES of grifters out there who will peddle bullshit for Internet clout.

    Back in the Windows XP days there used to be legends that if you disabled Windows Update, you'd get 10% extra FPS in games. And people with no clue would go and disable updates.....

    So, I'm glad I'm not forced to update on Linux. But I'm much more glad that Windows, with its, what, 75% market share, does force updates. We (as a civilisation) have already proven that we're not mature enough to be allowed to disable them.

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