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Economic disparity in Italy following industrialization, between North and South, which continues to this day, undoubtedly could be a factor. Italy is also a very extroverted culture with a collectivist, outgoing tradition that even today opposes social atomization that capitalism creates (think of movements like Cittaslow and Slowfood), but this can be said about so many other cultures in just the Mediterranean basin alone - Italy has just been part of the imperial core, meaning higher literacy rates and thus "capacity" to produce such prominent Marxist thinkers. Italy also saw fascism, which perhaps could have made class consciousness amongst intellectuals skyrocket?
And confirmation bias? Maybe, but it's a fun thought experiment regardless because we as Marxists are materialists in the first place, so we know that this isn't just an "inherent genetic trait", or "random", as liberal idealism would propose.
~~not just their intellectuals are insufferable lmao, that's too generous when speaking of that "civilization"~~
Almost the polar opposite of anglos. Italians are outgoing, social, community-focused / communitarian. Anglos are reserved, individualistic, and care more about unlimited freedom for individuals than collective betterment.
Facts, comrade. If we divert off-topic a little further and focus on anthropology, honestly, this comparison can be drawn in general between "superior whites" (Celto-Germanics) and the "non-whites" (including European Mediterraneans, at least historically). The ethno-nationalists claim to be so "superior" yet prefer the food of the "inferiors", appropriate the cultural traditions and teachings of the "inferiors", and even try to steal the history of the "inferiors", by claiming it as their own or by attempting to sever the continuity between ancient civilizations they find fascinating and the modern populations, which are their descendants, to paint those as "inferiors". This is a veeeery common trick in the playbook of aforementioned Anglo intellectuals, and the Fr*nch too.
This is partially how the entire myth of "Western civilization" emerged, which is little more than a Eurocentric term for what became the political imperialist bloc we know today, rooted in the same narratives that gave us "civilizing mission", "savages" and other nonsense - which are today recycled into the neocon language's "spreading democracy", "terrorists", etc.