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A not-so-friendly reminder (startrek.website)

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[+] turtlepower@lemm.ee -90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have no problem respecting them as living, breathing people, but I will not feed their delusion. It is not a physical gender issue, it is a mental health issue - some sort of mental abnormality, like AD(H)D, BPD, Schizophrenia, etc. It is just an extreme form of body dysmorphia (they even call it gender dysmorphia). So why are we being forced to feed this delusion? Why are we mutilating people because of their mental illness? When someone has a mental illness, do we help them hurt themselves or others? No. We give them medication and therapy to try and get their system to function correctly. So why do we not do the same for trans people? It is not the same as being gay/les/bi/etc. That is physical and/or romantic attraction. That is not mental illness. Thinking your body is wrong or that you're in the wrong body is. We need to stop treating it medically, and start treating it psychologically. Regardless, they are human beings and should be treated as such, with all the rights that go along with it.

Edit: How about instead of downvoting and telling me to fuck off, you answer my questions? I'm serious. I want to know why so many people get hostile when this shit is asked. Is it that hard to accept reality?

Oh, and as someone that's part of LGBQA, I find it really strange that Trans is included in that since it's gender and not sexuality. Especially when so many trans people complain about being fetishized.

[-] 7heo@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago

So, I started writing a (very) long answer with lots of detail, to respectfully and honestly answer your questions, from the PoV of a non-trans person that did quite a bit of research, but I stopped.

I just can't. Neither can I be respectful towards you anymore. Your constant misuse of the term "mental illness" is aggravating, and quite frankly, disturbing. To the point I am wondering if it isn't, in fact, a cry for help.

Are you mentally ill? Do you need help? It would really seem that you do.

Just as a thought to ponder: when most other people are mentally ill, maybe you should consider seeing a shrink.

I also want to correct a few things, not for the user I'm answering to, but for anyone reading my comment, because I just can't let such a heap of manure stand uncorrected:

There is no such thing as "physical gender". Gender is a coercion and domination religious tool.
Being trans, or identifying as a different gender, is a means to escape religious shackles. Escaping religious shackles isn't "mental illness".
"Mental abnormalities" are bullshit. We aren't computers, we are humans, and all different. There is no normal, except maybe the norm that most dimwitted people have no issue with LARPing a bullshit character decided for them, their entire life...
Comparing "AD(H)D, BPD, Schizophrenia, etc" is exactly like comparing "bud light, meth, crack, etc". I know that on the post-2015-internet people talk mostly out of their asses, but that doesn't make it ok.
Dysmorphia is a mental disorder. Dysphoria is "acute anxiety". Again with the mental disorder implication.
Force feeding medication to alleged "mentally sick" people is a nazi method. A humane approach is to provide care. As in talking with them, listening to them, helping realize, overcome traumas, (re)constructing an identity, etc.
Feeling uneasy with one's body is common, it is caused by the image communicated by society about what a "desirable body" is, and the difference between that image and one's body.
Medical and psychological care aren't opposed, nor they are opposable.

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