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Apple informs journalists Russia is targeting them with Pegasus spyware
(www.businessinsider.nl)
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At this rate an iPhone will just be Pegasus all the way down. 76 nation states and their rogue black ops will battle for pegasupremacy.
He who hacks harder wins.
(The above is not based on any fact)
But, seriously... 3 (known) years later and Apple doesn't have a fix for this?
Almost as if it's intentionally unpatched
Edit: fanboys are a tough crowd. Gheezus.
It's not like Pegasus is exploiting a single bug in iOS, there are probably hundreds of different ways Pegasus got onto phones over the years. Known security bugs get patched.
Pegasus isn't a single piece of software, it's a big toolkit, constantly updated. It's a race similar to ads vs. ad blockers.
It's not a problem exclusive to iOS either. Pegasus works on Android phones as well.
Code has been analyzed from several versions of it.
Edit: the code and analysis report available here:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/research/2021/07/forensic-methodology-report-how-to-catch-nso-groups-pegasus/
(Edit: it amazes me how much people will defend/rationalize the most valuable corporation ever known to put more effort into the camera being placed 2mm to the left than an exploit that gets people killed.)
That Apple (especially) can't mitigate against it is pretty damning.
Regardless what Pegasus is made of, it exploits vulnerabilities. Use a rock, a bat, or hard boiled egg and you can break a cheap window. It's the window that is insecure. Not the methods used.
A trillion dollar company ought to be able to put up a bit more than plexiglass.
And the mega corps ought to be working together on this. Imagine if it got out into the wild.
Remember spectre?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(security_vulnerability)
I am not a lawyer.
hardware based speculation is hard to patch compared to most exploits that are just bad programming mistakes due to two factors. one being its hardware and its hard to patch out hardware and 2. fixing it would lead to severe drop in performance. A name of a very recent one would be Retbleed.
Yet, if you check your dmesg you'll find innumerable methods of mitigation against such exploits.
A software patch for hardware issue.
Personally, I'd rather the drop in performance than the Kashoggi treatment.
hence a preference thing, because In real life, when users see a huge performance drop, they complain (e.g Apple throttling old iphones due to aging battery without telling users). It's why it's one of the hardest fixes to do. Sometimes patches for speculation doesn't hurt the end user much (e.g Zenbleed does not affect consumer loads like gaming) then you have situations like Intel's Downfall, which has sizable AVX2/AVX512 performance penalties.
It was absolutely not just for aging battery. It was also planned obsolescence.
hence why it feels like that, but saying its the same situation again, some people would have prefer it for the phone to randomly shut off at 1-10% battery, and there's the other camp that would have preferred for it to be throttled to prevent non zero shut down.
Apples mistake was both not telling people about it publicly, and not giving them a choice.
It wasn't a mistake. It was intentional.
Apple doing that intentionally WAS the mistake.
It lost trust. It was sketchy. It was plain wrong.
Yeah, true, and the dead people don't get to complain, so just prioritize performance because the dead aren't complaining.
/s obviously. I don't give a fuck how much performance you gain/lose by running an exposed system. Increasing road speed limits would help people get to work faster. But more of them would be dead. Road safety comes first, convenience and speed comes second.
I could understand people having a slightly different priority list 30 years ago when performance was shit and computers were obscure. But in this day and age, we're making increases in performance 99.9% of the populace won't notice and computers literally run our lives. The priority is security.
Yeah, exactly. Most people don't utilize AVX all that much. And those that do likely have newer machines that are unnaffected. And Intel is patching it.
The point is, anything there is code speculation, virtually every single time they invent a new way to speed up performance, a new method of attack gets found. It doesnt matter if its Arm, it doesnt matter if its Apple, jt doesnt matter if its Intel, doesnt matter if its AMD, everyone has exploits as long as code speculation is a thing. If security is a severe issue, would the solution not be finding or using phones without code speculation period as as long as long as it exists, historyically speaking, its only a matter of time till an exploit exists for it.
One affects games.
The other literally gets people killed.