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submitted 1 year ago by JRepin@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[-] LeZero@lemmy.world 581 points 1 year ago

To the people shitting on the idea of a default defederation with Meta, how about we deferedate not because it will affect us as posters but because they are evil pieces of shit?

[-] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 221 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah, the difference is pretty stark:

  • lemmy: we'll give you a way to dm anyone on site, but please don't use that, if you set up an app on this other open source service we're not affiliated with (which is basically an encrypted discord) we'll do our best to make it as seamless for you as possible. we'll keep warning you for your own privacy.
  • meta/facebook: aggressively keeps you on-platform for spying purposes; literally killed xmpp a decade ago and they'll fuckin do it again (if we let them)

They trust me. Dumb fucks.

- Mark Zuckerberg

(yes it sounds like satire but that's a real quote)

[-] bluejay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

Was it Facebook that killed xmpp or Google? Legitimately asking because I've always seen that blamed on Google.

[-] triarius@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

It was Google, they Embraced, Extended, and Extinguished it with Google Chat. Then they killed that themselves.

[-] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

correction: it was both! fedbook chat also supported xmpp at first, they never federated but you could at least use it with a jabber client. then when they had enough market share they killed it.

fun semi related fact is that whatsapp, at least a couple of years ago, was using modified ejabberd (ie an xmpp server) as the backend - so arguably they helped with EEE too.

[-] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 8 points 1 year ago

google does seem to be the main culprit, but facebook still played a role as far as i'm aware. these two companies also colluded a lot so i wouldn't trust either of them with anything federated

[-] bluejay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah they can both get fucked. Cheers

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