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[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Hamas is extremist to the point where they would be doing a genocide as well if they were in the position to do so.

"the people being genocided would do the exact same thing if they come into power!" is just soft genocide denial. it's colonizers telling on themselves, because that's their solution to an unwanted indigenous populace.

People say separate the Hamas from the people, but that's really hard when the members of Hamas are of the people and have the support of a good percentage of them.

israel was instrumental in destroying all non-hamas groups. their extremism is intentional, as it gives israel an excuse to continue doing genocide.

... But as the issue stands today, I can't blame Israel in taking extreme action to end the conflict that's dragged on for nearly a century now.

you...can't blame the genocidal settler state for continuing to do a genocide in response to...people resisting the genocide they have been doing for 70 years?? are you fucking drunk?

[-] Kepabar@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's what makes the whole thing complicated, isn't it?

Israel shouldn't have existed to begin with and when it did, it shouldn't have acted the way it has since its inception.

Yes, Israel is to blame for Hamas having power in Gaza today as well.

I'm not arguing that Israel isn't a bad guy here.

What I'm arguing is I don't see an alternative that doesn't just kick the can down the road.

[-] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Irs not complicated. You are directly stating that the Israelis have to do genocide because its unrealistic that they don't, and then asking us to think of the poor innocent israelis who may have to not live in a stolen home if they stop doing genocide.

[-] Kepabar@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

The vast majority of Israeli's were born there at this point.

It's not a stolen home to them. It's the only home they've ever known.

[-] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can move, you racist genocidal freak

And if somehow we have to accept that we can't move any of them, they can stop preventing the Palestinians from moving home.

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