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[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

One thing I'm unsure of is whether warming is so bad because a) planet was warmer multiple time in prehistory and it led to abidance of life b) we live in interglacial period and if that perid ends we are going to fight much worse calamity and need much more energy. Even getting out could become life threatening.

On the other hand Venus situation is also not ideal.

Speed of change.

Natural climate changes happen over tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years

Not tens to hundreds of years.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not always, check Sahara for instance. Went from grass lands with biggest lake on planet to dust dry place within hundreds of years as Egyptians who built pyramids still lived in period before total desrtification. That affected whole world climate BTW.

[-] femboycuddles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

But desertification is a different phenomenon than climate change, right? The speed and magnitude of global climate change right now has not been found, too.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03984-4

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Not in Sahara case. Or to be precise it's cycle of combinations of titling earth axe, changing orbit shape and maybe some other things like solar cycles that all affects global climate all over the planet manifesting among else in Sahara as cycles of desert <> grassland depending on which phase it is ATM.
That solar cycle itself change global avg temperature every few years.
Also around middle age there was "small" ice age. You see, climate seem stable but it isn't even in horizont of hundreds of years. It will change regardless of humans. Point is whether humans help it into good/ neutral / bad phase and how long it takes.

My other point is that eachtime earth was warmer few degrees than today, life boomed.

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