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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I know who the ada and the and are. I also know you're misrepresenting the current science.

[–] nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Absolutely absurd to think that the positions on vegan diets have shifted to the point where you can come close to considering this 'misrepresentation'. That is so extremely dishonest, what an open afront to science.

Let's take a very recent study to hammer this home. A blood work comparison between diets. Done in Germany, among 120 or so people, so it's a small one... But just extremely recent, and interesting since it took in a few variables that are normally skipped... But not important for you, since you probably don't understand any of it anyway... All the dietary organisations stance on vegan diets were based on much much larger studies with ten of thousands of participants.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10586079/pdf/IANN_55_2269969.pdf

Conclusion This study revealed that even amongst homogeneously healthy, highly educated and physically active young Germans, omnivore, lacto-ovo-vegetarian and vegan diets result in measurable differences in dietary intakes and laboratory biomarkers of health. Plant-based diets, in particular the vegan diet, exhibited more favorable patterns of lipid metabolism and glycemic control. Our univariate and multivariate analyses showed that the risk of vitamin B12 deficiency is a major vulnerability in plant-based diets; however, this could be overcome with the use of oral over-the-counter supplements. The detailed examination of supplement use and blood biomarkers provided a first estimation that 250µg/d oral vitamin B12 taken over the course of 2years, supports adequate vitamin B12 status in healthy individuals adhering to plant-based diets. The significant lower use of vitamin B12 supplements in lacto-ovo-vegetarians suggests an excessive reliance on dairy and eggs as source of this micronutrient.

Exactly echoing the stance on (not just ADA AND) from dietary organisations that a well planned vegan diet is healthy and even has health benefits.

So you're completely and utterly out of touch with the reality, and have a completely distorted idea on how these organisations come to their conclusions or how any of this works really.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

by quoting the same organization with two different names as though they are two different organizations, and using quotes that imply this is their current position even when it is not, you are misleading people. that's dishonest.

[–] nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's only an example out of a long list of examples. It would only be dishonest if they, or other dietary organisations, reached conclusions that don't support what I'm saying. But that isn't true. It's just an example of what has been the consensus among dietary professionals for decades.

The only one being dishonest is you and you're awfully quiet in providing examples or engaging with anything in any substantially relevant manner. Which is typical for fucking idiots like yourself.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

The only one being dishonest is you

typical for fucking idiots

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

i'm pointing out your dishonest representation of the AND's position, and your dishonest representation of the ADA as a separate institution. i provided all the information anyone needs to see that you don't care about the truth as long as you have a link that you think supports your position.