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[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The idea of a consolidated imperial core is in itself flawed and the idea itself is not applicable to all situations. Though definitely a useful point of view sometimes, using it unconditionally will only deny nuance and differences between core countries, which is not always helpful.

EDIT: Guessing this will probably get downvoted and/or ignored, but if anyone is actually willing to provide or cite some justification/explanation of the map in question, that would be great. Linking the Wikipedia article, whose map differs and has the reasoning of core countries as

They are usually recognized as wealthy states with a wide variety of resources and are in a favorable location compared to other states.

containing several points, which in total are inconsistent by leading to a false dichotomy, is not what I ask and not what I think a map of imperial core states should use for classification.

My reasoning for calling a consolidated core flawed is among other things because it is not taking into consideration the historic development and relationships between core states. Some classify, for example, Scotland as a semi-core due to these reasons.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap

lots of examples of what this map emoji means here

I particularly like this one of the countries that recognize Palestine, which is the inverse of the 'same map'.

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/f8d50ef2-6638-43e2-86e6-d1ece0d35add.png

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

No, this is not an explanation. For something as important as the imperial core, which you claim the map portrays, there needs to be an actual proper definition and reasoning behind it. Having a bunch of loosely corrolated maps is not it. The list of countries that recognize Palestine is also not a proper inverse.

I am just tired of seeing this map spammed. Once some even ridiculed others for not acknowledgeding it as the de facto definition of imperial core. I think this is especially bad due to having yet to see anyone actually putting any effort into analysis of why it looks like it does. Spewing unsubstantiated ideas is for the incoherent bourgeoisie and fascists.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

It's a meme (Moreover, the emote is named "international community" not "imperial core").

Hexbear emotes are not rigorous theoretical statements. E.g.: xi-plz

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

Hexbear emotes are not rigorous theoretical statements.

I-was-saying

[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

speak for yourself posadist-nuke

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