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I really wish they would give at least a tiny bit of context to this summary. It would be nice to just know if it was purely malicious or if it was due to some sort of bureaucratic nonsense where they have some sort of strict rules in place that forces them to refuse grants of any kind or something.
Either way it would be ridiculous to refuse... But for fuck's sake at least offer a little bit of context... The summary here just reads like pure outrage porn...
Pitchforks and torches are fucking tiring to carry around all the damn time...
Edit: just read the full article and yeah that's fucked up... school board voted against the grant because of the organization it was coming from and clearly had no desire to evaluate the project on its own merits... The dissenting opinion from one member of the board is actually a really good one and would recommend anyone curious to go read it.
You know, I feel like there was a time before Trump when I could look at an outrage headline and assume the truth was more nuanced. It usually did work out that way. After some point, not only was there no nuance to it, but the truth was even worse than the headline let on.
Meh, the world was crazy before Trump and it's going to remain crazy long after he is gone. I didn't care for the guy all that much but I can't see the point in treating him like some giant milestone in American politics.
People thought it was insane that we elected an actor to serve as President just a few decades ago and acted in much the same way then as people act about Trump today.
Well, for starters he was the first president to try to retain the office despite losing an election.
We should never normalize that.
Lol, well that narrative appears to have taken a deep turn away from reality.
You guys do understand that from the middle the insane propaganda of the right is nearly indistinguishable from the stuff coming from the left, right?
Plenty of elections have been contested... There is no evidence that I've seen of an attempt towards a coup d'etat.
I don't like the guy either but holy crap... I mean a good chunk of his military administration didn't even necessarily like the guy. I know General Goldfein personally, he wouldn't have allowed Trump to stage a coup... That man was and is about as honorable a general as one could ask for.
You can oppose Trump and also not fall for media sensationalism, I promise you will be okay.
I think it's possible you may be young enough that you don't know or remember the controversy surrounding Reagan, or Bush, or Clinton, or Bush again. I mean Reagan was so controversial that people tried to assassinate him and there media was reporting he was mentally unfit in his second term. Reaganomics was incredibly controversial and Democrats in that day treated it almost the same way that the Republicans today are treating Bidenomics.
Trust me in the grand scheme of American politics Trump isn't wildly unique. I offer those words to everyone not in his defense, because fuck that guy, but in hopes of inspiring a little more calm in the world because it ain't healthy for any of us to be this outraged all the time. All it does is just make us all more vulnerable to being manipulated.
You can try to gaslight people all you want.
We all saw what happened.
I read the legal case that his administration made.
We know what the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were up to that day, and why.
His own lawyer said he wasn't going to leave.
Pretending otherwise doesn't make it reality.
Normalizing it is collaboration.
Why don't you ask that bleeding-heart leftist Liz Cheney what the fuck he was up to?