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[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (55 children)

You obviously fall into the trap of believing that hard science cares about politics, and that money thrown at problems as part of national strategic planning magically solves them. But for anyone else legitimately interested in understanding the topic better and having a glimpse at its complexity, those are great resources:

If the above is too advanced, this can serve as a good primer and answers "how the heck did we get there": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt9NEnWmyMo

Also, I never wrote that China will never get to EUV (or eventually something beyond that), just that it will take a very long time, because the complexity is spread across several very distinct scientific disciplines, integrating them is a challenge of its own (again, watch the videos), and packaging this into a system that meets the scale and reliability requirements to make it commercially viable hasn't been reproduced to date.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (7 children)

You obviously fall into the trap of believing that hard science cares about politics

Look in the fucking mirror champ

You're trying to tell me a rapidly developing, well-resourced country will hit some arbitrary technology threshold because communism. You know, the political system that put the first man in space a generation after most of the USSR wasn't even literate.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You’re trying to tell me a rapidly developing, well-resourced country will hit some arbitrary technology threshold because communism

Don't you think that you are over-reading a little? I never brought up communism nor any socio-economical ideology for that matter. Quick tip for you: try to read some about economics and China if you nurture any expectation that it is a communist state other than in name.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you don't think China is communist, why do you think it will hit whatever arbitrary threshold you're imagining?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I think we know why us-foreign-policy

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

why do you think it will hit whatever arbitrary threshold you’re imagining?

What does that mean? What does this have to do with the above?

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