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[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

This is one of those aspects of conspiracy theorists that annoys me to no end. Here we have a genuine conspiracy by capitalist powers to hide and obfuscate their ideological opposition. It has been going on for decades and is extremely thorough. And yet conspiracy theorists overwhelmingly deepthroat capitalist boot without a second thought. Absolute clowns

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 10 months ago

It's the same dynamic when it comes to the adversaries of the empire. People who swear up and down that the government is corrupt and that the media lies about everything also believe everything the government and the media tell them about countries like China.

[-] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

This one was hard for me to shake as well. It was common double-think to believe that most government institutions were corrupt, except for the ones run by Democrats. The dems were fine. The more dems the better. Blah, blah, blah.

And at some points in time I would see CNN or NPR say some stupid shit that was easily falsified. And I would "Give them a pass." It was weird because I was even conscious of it, but my attitude was on the lines of "well, there isn't anything better out there."

Also the Gell-Mann amnesia effect comes to mind.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

It's much easier for someone who is functionally just a centrist conservative to "reject" everything, tar them all with the same brush, and then do nothing but whatever self-soothing prepper crankery they like to do in their basement or on forums or whatever, without any attachment to a real political movement because all real alternatives are "just as bad". It's a very self-satisfied approach to things.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

pretty well describes what i was like in my early adult years

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I think it's kind of natural to want to believe that there is some forces of good within the system. Accepting that both parties are there to represent the oligarchs is a hard pill to swallow.

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