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[-] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

sometimes things are bad and are bad at their core (both because they financially support someone who is doing so much to make the world more transphobic than it already is and also all the antisemitism, racism, classism, misogyny, transphobia, and just plain old bad writing decisions at the core of the story) and we just need to let go and stop participating in the fandom because it inevitably leads to people saying shit like “oh i can just buy this harry potter game even though i know jkr sucks and this gives money to her that she will use to fund bigotry, it belongs to the the fans now!” when it doesn’t, as long as jkr is alive it’s her space and spending time in it will eventually lead to money making its way over to her!!!

I'm sorry, but this is such an insane view (with so many inaccuracies in it I'm not going to bother debunking them all) that it's pointless to argue here. Maybe spend your energy on something else, you're giving her more mindspace than she is doing actual harm to the community. And she's probably making very very little off of HL as a whole. Warner Brothers owns the majority of the copyrights around the HL universe, unless it's theater or books, JK Rowling's website even says so.

and the game itself is bad because it’s about the goblins, who have long been noted to be fairly antisemitic caricatures in harry potter, being swarthy hooked nosed creatures who run the banks, have a long history of pogroms being run on them, have different moral values around ownership (very similar to accusations of judeo bolshevism) and have a literal star of david as their symbol in the films. and in this game they kidnap children for ritual purposes which is just straight up blood libel

This has been debunked time and time again. If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe the actual CAMPAIGN AGAINST ANTISEMITISM. She's so against antisemitism that the fucking Campaign Against Antisemitism says "So it is with JK Rowling, who has proven herself over recent years to be a tireless defender of the Jewish community in its fight against antisemitism, for which we are immensely grateful".

It's you that are seeing antisemetism. It's not there. It's a folk tale that has evolved over actual centuries into tales that go beyond the original tropes. Maybe instead of getting into arguments around this stuff you should look into the history of it and realize that, just because something looks bad, doesn't mean it is.

if you still aren’t sure what’s antisemitic here and you somehow aren’t a bad faith poster, look up judeo bolshevism, look up blood libel, look up images of antisemitic caricatures and compare them to descriptions of goblins in harry potter. there are so many antisemitic tropes in there it’s impossible to imagine no one was aware

maybe you should actually research the history of things rather than just looking at pictures and comparing. It's quite racist (and antisemetic) to think that just because things look similar that they were intended to be the same thing. They're not.

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This has been debunked time and time again. If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe the actual CAMPAIGN AGAINST ANTISEMITISM. She's so against antisemitism that the fucking Campaign Against Antisemitism says "So it is with JK Rowling, who has proven herself over recent years to be a tireless defender of the Jewish community in its fight against antisemitism, for which we are immensely grateful".

Yeah, I don't think an organization that carries water for the Zionist regime in Israel actually cares about the safety of Jews at all. Israel has been proven to stoke antisemitism abroad and make the situation for Jews outside of Israel worse in order to entice them to emmigrate to Israel. Any organization that doesn't acknowledge and challenge the racist framing of Jews with the Israeli state is itself incredibly antisemitic, and demonstrates that they don't really care about the welfare of Jews. I think it's safe to say that a far right organization would be willing to hold water for other far right figures, and that real Jews like my partner are correct when they say that Joanne's depicted stereotypes of goblins as essentially Jewish bankers is incredibly hurtful and encourages real life harm against Jews.

One of the most horrifying details in the game too, of which the director for it for most of it's development was a far right media personality, is that the "goblins" use an "annoying horn" for a status effect that's directly modeled off of the Shofar. The Jewish Shofar is a very holy and important cultural artifact for Jews which is directly paralleled in the game as an "annoying horn".

[-] snowe@programming.dev -1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I don’t think an organization that carries water for the Zionist regime in Israel actually cares about the safety of Jews at all. Israel has been proven to stoke antisemitism abroad and make the situation for Jews outside of Israel worse in order to entice them to emmigrate to Israel. Any organization that doesn’t acknowledge and challenge the racist framing of Jews with the Israeli state is itself incredibly antisemitic, and demonstrates that they don’t really care about the welfare of Jews. I think it’s safe to say that a far right organization would be willing to hold water for other far right figures, and that real Jews like my partner are correct when they say that Joanne’s depicted stereotypes of goblins as essentially Jewish bankers is incredibly hurtful and encourages real life harm against Jews.

🤦 you seriously want me to just go find plenty of other sources agreeing that you're arguing about folklore at this point instead of racist stereotypes? If people like you weren't bringing it up, literally no one would even notice. You sure aren't getting up in arms about the exact same depiction of goblins in literally every other piece of fantasy out there.

One of the most horrifying details in the game too, of which the director for it for most of it’s development was a far right media personality, is that the “goblins” use an “annoying horn” for a status effect that’s directly modeled off of the Shofar. The Jewish Shofar is a very holy and important cultural artifact for Jews which is directly paralleled in the game as an “annoying horn”.

yeah, so you clearly haven't played the game, and the fact that you think that there's an "annoying horn" in the game that has a status effect (what in the fucking world are you even talking about?) says pretty clearly that your opinion does not matter at all here. You're just spreading inaccuracies in the hopes of trashing something. Spreading lies doesn't help your case, it just makes you look like an angry person out for revenge, no matter what the truth is. JK is a terrible person, you don't need to make up shit in order to make that case, there's plenty of actual things she's said you can use.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago

gee you really like citing fuckin fascists to defend an antisemite and a transphobe.

This is why we call zionism antisemitism. They will carry water for actual antisemites because for their little genocidal ethnostate to continue to exist they need antisemitism to scare people into moving to their colonizer project.

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