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[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 9 months ago

The conception of a ‘universal right’ which assures to the peasant, to the Eskimo, and presumably to the Abominable Snowman, ‘periodic holidays with pay’ shows the absurdity of the whole thing. (…) What are the consequences of the requirement that every one should have the right ‘freely to participate in the cultural life of the community and to share in the scientific advances and its benefits’. (…) It is evident that all these ‘rights’ are based on the interpretation of society as a deliberately made organization by which everybody is employed. They could not be made universal within a system of rules of just conduct based on the conception of individual responsibility, and so require that the whole of society be converted into a single organization, that is, made totalitarian in the fullest sense of the word.

Totalitarianism is when everyone gets paid holidays and benefits from scientific advances. thanks Hayek very cool i love economics

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 9 months ago

I quite like Hayek. Not because I like what he says. But because he articulates some modern right wing views so well. And he's unashamed.

Many reactionaries today will try to sugar coat their politics. But if you explain what they're really saying by paraphrasing Hayek? It's like holding up a perfect mirror, yet the reactionary thinks it's one of those fairground, distorting mirrors. He's good for highlighting the problems of capitalist governance to onlookers. He puts the grotesqueness on display.

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

I feel the same way about ancient Greek philosophers. Fascists like to hold up Greece as the birthplace of civilization and democracy, but if you read what Plato had to say he's all like "Slavery rocks, we should gear up for war, and everyone must breed for the state". It's so candid it's refreshing

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

It’s so candid it’s refreshing

That's a good way of putting it. I think with the Greeks, it's not just the fascists, either. There's a view even among more level-headed (albeit mistaken) libs who look to the Greeks as virtuous fathers of democracy. You can find some of that. But you have to read it through a rose tinted welding helmet or, as you say, fascist eyes, to ignore the bit about limiting democracy to certain citizens or to treat that bit as a good thing and, likewise, to ignore the bits where they rejected markets.

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