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Calls for special deal to be struck for NT, which has biggest funding gap between public and private schools

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[-] lordriffington@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and if parents want their kids to go to the private schools, let the damn parents pay for it. Not the government. The entire point is for the lion's share of government funding to go to schools open to all (or at least all students within a catchment area) and who are bound to adhere to the same rules as every other government-funded school.

Private schools are already charging extra. Let them charge more. The only change is that those parents who do want to send their kids to private school will either have to pay the extra or accept that their kids will have to go to a public school.

The fundamental issue of education is that if a school can choose its students, it will be a better school.

It ultimately comes down to funding. Pretty much all of those 'better' public schools have more money than the others, mostly due to being in higher income areas and having parents who are able to contribute more, give to fundraisers, etc.

[-] stoic_sloth@aussie.zone -3 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t matter how logical you are: the net effect is that in the immediate, some kids who could have gone to private schools (with great familial effort) won’t be able to and thus receive a lower quality education.

Will you sacrifice the quality of your kids education for the greater good?

History, cause we have seen all this before, says you won’t.

[-] lordriffington@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Will you sacrifice the quality of your kids education for the greater good?

History, cause we have seen all this before, says you won’t.

Your question implies that I wouldn't believe they could get a good enough education at a public school (which frankly says more about you.) If I were to have another child and needed to send them to school, I would absolutely send them to a public school, even if I could afford the "best" private schools.

So while I reject your assertion that it's as cut and dried as 'private school=better,' the answer is yes. I would.

[-] stoic_sloth@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I am not saying that private is always better, but the catchment rules for public mean that your kids might be going to a relatively bad public school just purely due to demographics.

History says that educationally minded parents are unwilling to send their kids to such a school…which further entrenches that schools low performance.

You might be willing to do so, but the aggregate are not.

It’s why this situation is politically fraught: short voting incentives prevent politicians from fixing it as it costs them their voters.

[-] yesterdayshero@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's the link you're trying to draw between public/private school funding and catchment areas?

[-] stoic_sloth@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

It’s a…weakness in schools drawing from a geographic area.

A school is not just the facilities and the teachers. It’s also the student body, and going to school with kids who care about education is better for education outcomes than a school with people who don’t.

This is why private/selective schools get such outsized results, they pick and choose the “best” students and let the wealthy leach buy their way in.

The effect is that the public schools don’t have this “cream” or the money.

If you want good outcomes. You functionally need to outlaw private schools.

[-] yesterdayshero@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why does any of that mean private schools should get more government funding than public schools?

Based on your argument, private schools should get no funding, because it doesn't improve education.

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