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[-] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 1 year ago

I think leftists currently refer to all pro-capitalists as "liberals."

[-] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago

Liberals are certainly pro-capitalist, but a modern leftist wouldnt refer to a fascist or conservative as a liberal. The term is pretty much used to describe people who claim to be left leaning while still advocating for incremental (rather than radical) change, such as the modern American democratic party. It is used as a derogatory because liberals generally speaking don't have any intention of dismantling the corporate capitalist oligarchy, or implementing true socialist policies.

Even if some self-identified liberals do desire these changes - to a leftist their methods are seen as ineffectual by design, therefore further contributing to the longevity of the broken capitalist system.

[-] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well said. The whole mainstream media is this way. It's all economically right, and it goes on a spectrum socially. So, when you look at diagrams like this, it gives you a false sense that there are ideas to consider from centrists to communists. Because from this diagram, CNN is a socialist/communist media platform, but that isn't true at all.

[-] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Jesus, what a mind job.

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