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Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid (www.businessinsider.com)

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[-] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 76 points 7 months ago

People in this thread clearly don't understand what the implications are. There is a very clear danger of war on the European continent that will involve NATO and by proxy the US. Aid for Ukraine is the absolute cheapest option. Europe is not going to just let Ukraine fall and will ramp up their involvement. We already have France willing to send troops.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago

Aid for Ukraine is the absolute cheapest option

One who consider a proxy war where thousand people die and a country get destroyed the "cheapest option" tells you how much they are in bad faith. For politicians your life is indeed cheap and something they can trash away for profits

[-] Ebber 10 points 7 months ago

So no aid to Ukraine and show Russia that it can indeed start wars where thousands die and destroy countries, without negative consequences?

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

As long as it doesn't mess up with their business no government in the world care if russia starts a war. Where's the aid to gaza as a genocide is happening at the hands of israel? War is a business and politicians wants more of it

[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Where are the negative consequences for America? Why can America invade any country it wants and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children but for some reason when Russia does it we have to show them they aren't allowed?

Only America and its allies can start wars and commit genocides?

[-] Ebber 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I didn't condone the USA's actions, and it's clear from your comment that you assume I would. It's clear to me who is the aggressor in this conflict between Ukraine and Russia, and it's not Ukraine.

Don't let your disdain for one imperialist push you over to another.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Classic whataboutism.

Because the US does interventionism, fund far-right politicians, etc., Russia (and China) can do as such, and even more. At least the US doesn't want to "regain it's old lost territories".

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In fairness it's a solid criticism considering there's two kinds of comparisons that aren't made on equal footing. To argue U.S.'s kind of intervention is the same as the Russias, would be more appropriate to consider Russia's pre 2014 involvement in Ukraine. If you want to compare full-scale military operations then ZILtoid makes a good point. We haven't tried to annex another country in a long time.