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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (44 children)

Defense of Ukraine is a great example of how weapons can be used for good. But definitely not all that these companies do, as Gaza shows.

[–] Pollux@leminal.space 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"Defense" is when you aid the overthrow of a government to replace it with a fascist one that kills eastern Ukrainians like in Donbass, DPR, LPR, and Crimea

Then they wonder why Crimeans overwhelming support Russia against the post-2014 fascist coup gov in Ukraine

[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's defense because the US military industrial complex is "defending" its profit margins by creating instability far enough away that it won't affect them, but that they can profit off of

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crimeans overwhelming support Russia against the post-2014 fascist coup gov in Ukraine

People in Donbass too as you'd expect. They welcomed the Russian army as liberators in 2022 from the current fascist Ukraine gov

[–] Pollux@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago

It's a shame that people who say they support "Ukraine" usually mean the 2014 fascist coup gov instead of the Ukrainian breakaway regions resisting it.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defence is when you defend your country against an invader.

[–] Pollux@leminal.space 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Correct, and I strongly support our Ukrainian comrades in the DPR and LPR in their resistance against the fascist coup government.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

I was more thinking when Russia invaded and tried to encircle Kyiv and whatnot. But yeah, when you fight against an attacker, it's defence. It's a general term rather than a value position.

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, I Wonder why everyone that's left in the regime that deports and persecutes dissenters says they are in support of that regime?

Ukraine never invaded anybody. Giving them weapons so they can throw out the people invading them, taking their land and molesting their people is a good thing. Russia has clearly shown that the only way to get rid of the plague that is Russian soldiers on foreign soil is to kill them. That's why we have this war that Russia has chosen to engage in, and which Russia can choose to withdraw from at any time. That's why Russians are dying by the hundreds of thousands.

[–] Pollux@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sopuli.xyz user detected, opinion rejected

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of honest curiosity: Whats wrong with sopuli.xyz? I literally just picked a random instance when I joined Lemmy, and have never heard anything special about this instance.

[–] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe because it's the instance that hosts the largest pro fascist-coup gov community. Everything I've seen from it at least seems to enforce that stereotype

You actually have to elaborate on what you mean by "pro fascist-coup gov", I honestly don't know what fascists your talking about.

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