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Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas out of Olympics after losing legal battle
(www.theguardian.com)
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I'm not sure where the disconnect is happening. It's been explained to you over and over but you loop back.
The two categories exist to provide women a fair chance to compete in a category of their own. We don't establish categories based on outliers, but on averages. On average male athletes will always outperform female athletes. There is no way around this fact. It's not a matter of too much work to include females. There is no work to be had if we wanted to ensure fair odds. Most of the trans community agrees with this assessment. It's not that hot of a take.
No they don't...
I tried googling for some statistics regarding trans people's opinions on this matter and I didn't find anything, is there a poll either of you has seen that indicates this or is this the general consensus among trans people you know?
No poll. But I'm a trans athlete that has been active in trans communities for nearly a decade.
I have no numbers, but I think it's safe to say I'd be aware if most of my own community was against my participation.
Most of the trans community absolutely does not agree that trans women should be excluded from women's sports, no clue where you're getting that from.
And trans women are women, excluding us from women's sports is literally not fair. We are not men, nor are we male. So we are not going to compete in men sports or male categories.
And if we don't make sports fair for everyone then why are you talking about fairness?? If it's not fair already then what materially is lost by trans women competing?
Say a transgender woman wins at a competition in women's sports, what materially has been lost here? A woman won a women's sporting event. What is happening that is unfair?? She's female, she's a woman, so how can you assert that she shouldn't be able to participate in women's sports? To what end? What is lost by letting the half a dozen trans female athletes in the world compete?
The literal only justification for it is a fundamental belief that trans women are not female or are not women. Any other attempt at justifying it falls apart at the seams because there are more outlier women physically than there are transgender women at all, so banning transgender women but allowing outlier women to compete is literally just banning us cause we're trans.