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[-] k4r4b3y@monero.town 1 points 4 months ago

That's cool. I might try nostr for that, although I still think secure scuttlebutt's design is better.

[-] dragonsidedd@sciencemastodon.com 3 points 4 months ago

@k4r4b3y @rafael_xmr Just poking in to say I also love SSB’s totally decentralized design. It’s what I would choose for maximum censorship resistance.

That said, the world has basically chosen Federated architectures rather than fully decentralized ones: Matrix, Mastodon, etc.

An important requirement for a social network… is people

[-] k4r4b3y@monero.town 2 points 4 months ago

Where can I begin with SSB? Sadly, almost all of its clients seem like they are abandoned development.

[-] dragonsidedd@sciencemastodon.com 3 points 4 months ago

@k4r4b3y TBH I stopped paying attention to SSB about 2 years ago, and even when I was active I just used the web interface (and sometimes the CLI for pub management)

[-] k4r4b3y@monero.town 2 points 4 months ago

Web interface of what? Manyverse?

[-] dragonsidedd@sciencemastodon.com 1 points 4 months ago

@k4r4b3y Oh yeah, on phone I used Manyverse. Big props to Andre Saltz if he's still working on it.

Just throwing this out there -- if I were taking up the task of censorship-resistant online community creation today, I'd probably focus on Matrix. It already has a very solid backend and ability to sync servers; there is a lot of low-hanging fruit in the clients, though

[-] k4r4b3y@monero.town 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Andre Saltz

He left Manyverse development 2 months ago. Someone else hopefully will take up the mantle.

Matrix

I don't think matrix is censorship resistant at all. It relies on DNS, which is centralized. Also, these criticisms of matrix are valid reasons to not pick it imo: https://telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-07

[-] dragonsidedd@sciencemastodon.com 3 points 4 months ago

@k4r4b3y I got thru #8 and they were all the same nonissue IMO -- yes, it's an append-only log like a lot of decentralized systems and yes that means it's not inherently linear and that you can't delete stuff.

I'll look over the rest later

[-] hfondmanager@monero.town 1 points 4 months ago

The real issue is graph anal in social networks: You don't want to store all graph info all the time on all nodes. I want only my friends to know who i am. That's privacy. Technically RS can do that -- but you'll miss out on the fun factor.

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