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It boggles my mind that this fake electors scheme didn't land Trump in jail immediately. There was a much more coordinated effort behind the scenes to keep him in power than anybody realized at the time.
I looked into the things that were done to try to keep Trump in office. They seriously tried to conduct a coup. No doubt. It's not ambiguous. It wasn't a wacky protest that Trump kind of got riled up and it went too far. Trump wasn't the only one involved. They didn't try to take advantage of a loophole. They straight up tried to overturn the election using corruption, intimidation, coercion, and violence. It didn't fail because it was a bad attempt. It was stopped by many people that had integrity. We were this close 🤏 to losing what we have of democracy. The fact that Trump et al. isn't in jail or worse is a sign of how infected our system is.
Someone please prove me wrong. I want to be wrong, but I can't convince myself that I am.
The thing that keeps trump out of jail is the plausible deniability that he was involved or at fault. There’s probably enough evidence against him, but not enough that even corrupt judges can’t look the other way. And he can just appeal to he gets a judge corrupt enough. So investigators have to handle this like any other criminal organization by starting at the little guys and making deals with them to turn on the person above them, then get them to turn in the people pulling their strings, and on and on until you can get enough people willing to testify in court that trump was in fact part of it. I say part because I don’t credit him to be smart enough to be at the top of this. He’s somebody’s useful idiot.
The proof against is probably just Trump saying "wrong."
"Excuse me, excuse me. Fake news. And by the way that is a nasty question."
The Congressional Dish podcast did a pretty good episode about it a while back. I think it was Episode 266: Contriving January 6th.
Episode 266: Contriving January 6th
I'm gonna check it out. Thanks!
After the push comes the fire
For the sake of the witnesses testifying against Trump, I hope justice is served. Who knows what Trump is going to do to them if he's allowed to be President again. Kamala Harris needs to win, the justice system needs to do their part to prosecute and sentence in a timely manner.
She needs to win. That should be enough time for cardiovascular disease to do its fucking job. At the very least for the guy to be over 80. With the shadow of Biden hanging over that age I doubt it’ll be viable for a presidential run going forward, for a while anyway.
I believe SCOTUS green lighted Seal team 6
Testimony from an insider co-defendant is a game changer. I doubt we’re lucky enough that Trump personally led the effort, but I wonder about Rudy’s involvement. Who knows what others?
A new front of criminal liability just opened up. Maybe it’s time to reconsider loyalty versus personal freedom.
They are almost certainly going to try this type of election stealing again this year, and may have even learned how not to get caught this time.
Hopefully has something juicy to share.
Oh just the thought has me trying to remember what hope tastes like.
According to some reports from earlier this year, some of the fake electors in the case have been provided with public defenders because of their inability to pay for their own defense. Among those electors are Greg Safsten, the former executive director of the Arizona Republican Party, and Robert Montgomery, the former chair of the Cochise County Republican Committee.
I would imagine one of the ones who can't afford to pay for a high priced defense lawyer saw the light and flipped.
Was probably the first, last, and only thing the public defender told them.
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